Scola isnt getting plays called for him because he doesnt have the skill to consistently convert. Landry can be that go to guy PLUS do the dirty work such as getting offensive rebounds and easy dunks around the basket.
I value Luis, as well, but if you polled every NBA player and/or exec as to whom our most important player(s) has been this year, you'd have to believe the answer would be A). Carl Landry B). Aaron Brooks C). Dork Elvis (wait, he's a "playa") Further, I don't see any portion of Luis' game actually increasing over time. He may get more accurate, but he won't create space any better than he does now. Landry, OTOH, has an H-E-B shopping cart full of countermoves he could learn to goto off of his jumper and emerging post game. Defensively, I just don't see the chasm between the two. Landry can't guard a chair. Scola can...unless it's a wheelchair.
If you subtract the game he was injured in, where he played 12 seconds, Luis would be averaging about 9.25 boards and just under 15 points per game. He has a poor game every once in a while, as does Carl, but over all, Luis is very consistent. At least you got his age right!
yes, but its over a year away, with a very significant offseason coming up, not sure it's worth discussing when neither side can even be sure of the facts. We can't even be sure of how landry will play the rest of the year, i mean, we're not even halfway there.
We should make a 100% effort to keep Landry on the Rocker's Team fopr the foreseable future. We should be able to sign him for about $5-$7 million. There is going to be major reductions in what owner will pay next season. Yao Ming will be fortunate to get $10-$12 million. Scola , Battier & Brooks no more than $5mil. This will of course only be successful if all owners comply! Greedy Owners like Portland & Dallas may upset everything!
With so many teams over the salary cap more and more teams are limited to offering no more than the MLE. Each year there are a limited number of teams able to exceed the MLE figure, will Landry be one of the few to get an offer that exceeds the MLE? I don't think any of us know the answer to that but the Rockets will be in a position to offer Landry more than any other team if they choose and that is good enough for me.
his contract is not due after next season. why worry now? just because he is so good that we'd consider send him out as we can't AFFORD? that's silly logic to me.
Luis has really disappointed me this season I really didn't think his offensive game depended 40 - 60 % on Yoa I really saw him as our go to guy .. I say keep'em both with scola's age I don't think he'll cost us much .. For the longterm I'll take Landry's upside he's already a good shot blocker .. defense can always be improved ..
Landry is not as effective with Yao crowding the middle.... There are more factors to consider when building a team. Right now, I still think Luis is the better player. DD
The only thing i dislike about discussion like this is a poster seem anti 1 guy and thats not true. DD, there isn't anything landry cant do now he cant do when and if yao comes back. In fact, look at the effect of having someone else in the post when yao comes back. Not to mention, carl can take guys off the dribble and is a better mid range shooter than scola. These are points that aren't even in debate. I do agree scola is a better rebounder, but both are avg at best defenders and i don't see this so called versitility you see with scola. Its not like either are long shot blockers or 3 pt shooters from the 4 spot. Another thing is there is something to it when the guy is the 2nd leading 4th qt scorer in the entire nba. That speaks volumes about how good the guy is to me. Scola isnt the better player just as alston wasnt the better player. We know adelman is a loyal guy and it takes alot for him to replace a guy. Not to mention, scola isn't playing bad enough to be replaced by landry, but landry is the better player.
We are going to need another true go-to post player in case Yao isnt 100% or in case Yao is easily fronted again. Scola can get lots of scores around the basket, but Landry can be posted up and consistently score.
I like scoring too, but defense and rebouding matters as well... Anyway, I hope we keep them both. DD
Absolutely. Further, I don't see Yao as a huge determinant in this debate. All the things Luis can do with Yao, Carl can do already...and probably better with a Center that commands the attention the Big Broken Foot does. While we're on the subject though, BBF is reliably shutdown in 4th quarters with fronts, etc. Why on Earth would Luis be preferred to Killer Carl when Landry is proven to be murder in the 4th quarters?? As Magic called it..."Winning Time!". Killer Carl has become a better 4th quarter option than Scola or even Yao ever has been or, for that matter, ever will be. Such an attribute is RARE and to be valued more than scrappy, adept, hustling, wig-inspiring fan favorites.
Landry's rebound needs to improve. But, I think his one on one defense is better than Scola. Of course, Scola's PnR defense is better. More importantly, Landry's offense ability is unique. Yesterday, the hornets' announcers called him 'MR. 4th quarter'. I think that says a lot.
I think its an interesting question how big a contract Scola will get. Hes probably about reached his ceiling, hes not go-to guy, but hes still incredibly effective around the paint and a good rebounder. Maybe we can keep him for cheap.
As I see it, Scola is a much better shooter when he's "butt naked" open (something that occurs quite often playing around Yao). Landry is far better at creating space for himself but less effective in shooting wide open shots. You can depend on him to create offense for your team. So, right now, Landry is probably more productive for our team despite not being as good of a rebounder and not as good of a defender (only slightly though, Scola isn't nearly the defender some posters make him out to be). The problem comes when Landry's role goes back to knocking down open jumpers and garbage buckets. Scola is better at that. He's a more consistent jump shooter when open. I really don't see it coming down to Landry vs. Scola, though. Landry's perceived value is so high, he and Brooks are the only players people outside of Houston seem to covet. Scola will likely be signed for cheap (in relation to his production) and Landry will either be resigned or traded before his contract comes up. I seriously doubt Morey lets Landry walk.
We can't afford to LOSE Landry. He's just now coming into a big role and he's super young. He is our future! He's going to become an All Star and a premier player in the league; he needs to stay!
