I hope you post the same level of stuff in the Bima's new article thread..... Let's see if all the cowardly lions that blasted me in this thread have the guts to post that way in the Bima thread......being it is the same message. Clearly, this is a case of shooting the messenger.... DD
No, it isn't. Bima isn't comparing us to the lakers or spurs championship teams like you've done. From the article:
The overall message is the same, stay pat, see if we can get someone at the trade deadline, and strap em up. I have been saying for more than a year that 2010 offseason was not the target because of Yao's contract situation. What I think about this team and it's abilities for this season is a small portion of the overall message. If you disagree with them being a contender, fine....I am ok with that, it is your opinion. I think with a healthy Yao we are a contender, top 3 in the WC, but I concede that is a big "IF" If Yao is not healthy, or unable to really go 30 minutes by say March, then I think we are a 6thish seed. We shall see....what happens, but I know you would be happy if I am right. DD
DD, that was unworthy. If you had written and posted Bima's column, there would have been the same reaction. It's like comparing a souped up VW, you, with a BMW off the dealer's floor, Bima. Two different cars, two different expectations. It's you who tries to make it all about you, when it is the content that matters. And that drags the content down, in my opinion, often undeservedly so. You can be your own worst enemy sometimes. Relax!
I get it Deckard, I loved Bima's article, no doubt it is a quality look at the cap/roster situation. Clearly I agree with it, as I have said similar stuff in this thread and others. However, I think that there is a group of people on here that no matter what I post will come into my threads just to troll, you know, bringing up old arguments that have no relevence other than just being an arse. I am not trying to make anything about "ME" that is a misconception, I am just wanting to talk Rockets with fans of the team, and talk about observations, the team, expectations etc..... but any observation or idea about which direction I think the team is heading or might go, brings out the haters, and the threads take on a crap direction. And yes, I know, I participate in that crap by arguing back....I just don't like misconceptions getting out there. Just look at what people think around here about my thoughts on VSpan.... My main premise was to just give the guy a chance because the team was not going to win that year, and Rafer sucks. But, there is a perception that I thought he would be a star.... Just mind blowing. And, I do believe there is a "Shoot the messenger" mentality when I am the messenger by some "So called" fans on here. I guess I got tired of being punched and decided to punch back...and that gums things up....I wonder how you would react if you had people following you around like a lost puppy and gumming up your threads....? Either way, I post too much...lol It's ok, I post basically the same message and get 2 stars...I am used to it...lol. DD
So true DD. Don't let the idiots get you down. Ignore them if you can. I am surprised at Sam Fisher though we all get into personal bs at times with certain posters. I have even gotten into it with that old hippie, Deckard. Hey, why don't you and Deckard and I have a beer some time. I go to Austin about once a month?
I am always down for an adult beverage, and would like nothing better than to talk with fellow Rockets fans about this team. That, is precisely why I am here. DD
It's not even REMOTELY the same as the silliness that you are peddling here, I mean the awfulness of your this comparison (Broken-down Yao 2011 = all time great Tim Duncan in his prime) speaks for itself. But the true awfulness of it is that it's part of your annual offseason "Pay attention to me! We need to stand pat and stay the course with [insert name of DD FAVORITES[super]TM[/super] because they are like Steve Nash combined with Tony Parker banging Delontes Mom!!!111!!! and then we R contenders and I gonna open up can of I tol ya so!" - and of course the key distinction between this and bimathug's post is that you dry-humped that horse THOUSANDS (and I mean literally thousands) of times on this BBS before Bosh and the rest of the marquee free agents were available. The icing on the cake, as previously noted, is that, bloodied but unbowed when it became apparent that the Rockets somehow did not read any of your thousands of posts on teh subject, and actually were not content to "stand pat" and "stay the course" - you have created a fictitious alternate universe in which, even though they did the exact opposite of what you urged them to do, you know, deep down inside that, they must have really agreed with you and shared your feelings. You just know it. That is a subject I guess for a psychologist. I wonder if Ronny is reading this thread. PS it doesn't take any guts to post on an internet message board.
*esus , Sam. DD is just having fun and being a Rocket's fan. Fortunately Sam and I always have the exact same opinion on political issues, so need to fight with him.
Do I smell a bit of jealousy? Your just being a hater and can"t stand that DD gets more attention around here than you. Everyone has a opinion and has a right to express themselves. But you sir, don't even listen before jumping on the bash DD boat. DD gives alot around here and I enjoy his post, if you don"t like them fine, don"t read them but too follow DD around and just put up snotty post and argue the point until you can sleep better is ridiculous. Haven"t you ever heard the saying "we agree to disagree"? Take a note, it will make you feel better. Speaking of psychologist, do you know one? Give him a call, tell him your problems, your feelings, open up, you"ll feel better and I'm sure and the board around here will be better as well. One last note: Your completely right, it doesn't take any guts to come in here and bash someone for the sake of bashing. So look in the mirror. GO ROCKETS!!! I STILL BELIEVE!! :grin: apparently others don't..
The overall message is very different. You say that we can contend with the current roster. He disagrees. Obviously, DM disagrees. Now, you want to make it seem like your message in this thread was to stay pat and wait for a trade. According to you, "this team is LOADED". Who are you trying to fool?
Hey, I may tease you a lot about V-Span but it's all done in good humor. There is no maliciousness in my posts toward you DD because I really admire your passion for the Rockets. But I must say that you do have a tendency to fall in love with certain players that you believe are the answer to the Rockets' needs (JJ Reddick, Badiane) and when you get smitten by that lovebug, you tend to broadcast it all over the GARM in post after post after post. It doesn't bother me but I can understand how it can irritate others here.
Your "message" is no where close to Bima's. The mere suggestion is laughable. Just because he has a "stand pat" scenario does NOT mean you are working with the same premise. You are suggesting we stand pat because you believe we are good enough to contend, AS IS, given a healthy Yao Ming. Bima is suggesting we are NOT good enough to contend, therefore we must upgrade through: 1. Trade this offseason 2. Trade at trade deadline 3. 2011 Free Agency However, in the meantime, if we cannot accomplish any of the above 3, STAND PAT so that we do not blow any of our assets on marginal upgrades. The underlying messages are closer to opposite than similar. To suggest otherwise, no doubt to lend credence to your ridiculous argument from a credible poster, is disingenuous at best.
Then you completely missed the message, it was that they are good enough to contend "AS IS" if Yao is healthy. And, that Yao's contract forces us into that situation, so we might as well make the best of it, and hope for the best scenario. I do think the team is good enough if all those criteria are met to be contenders, would they be favorites? No...but I think most of the time, unless you hit a homerun in the draft, *where most Superstars are acquired* you have to make do with what you have. Consider this, Yao Ming was the first overall pick, he was our shot at getting a Superstar player......is he one? No, I don't think he is, he is on the same tier level as Bosh and others, a really really good player, a STAR player if you will. So, what can you do, if you did not get that Superstar player? You surround him with other star players, and sometimes that works out.....sort of like Detroit in their latest championship year. Also, you continue to hope that one of the picks turns into the next Superstar player....though admittadly those chances are not good....but one can hope. I don't believe we need to get a better player necessarily, but I would welcome one if it made the team better overall.....and think that we have to find out, what Yao will give us, before deciding a direction to take the team. Will we continue forward with Yao, or build without him, because until you answer that, you are treading water, IMO. I hope that clarifies it.......a bit.....the main point of this thread was that sometimes the best thing to do, is to stand pat.......and I believe that is where my thoughts show some similarity to the article, but I guess his direction at the end game is more clearly defined......which again, I can't define until I see what Yao has left. Best regards, DD
