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Can Texas go to Fiesta Bowl if Miami and Ohio State both lose 1 game?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by JBIIRockets, Nov 3, 2002.

  1. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Didn't know that. New rule?
     
  2. mduke

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    I guess.......I don't know how new it is though. It's a shame they gave up a huge lead in the 4th against Louisiana Tech, or they'd have a possibility of winning 8 games this year:eek:
     
  3. Refman

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    I'll be reminding you of this post when Texas INEVITABLY fires Mack...all their fans saying he sucks...and introducing the new head coach as the next coming of Darryl Royal...no really we mean it this time. :rolleyes:
     
  4. BrianKagy

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    I wouldn't waste effort bookmarking it, if that's what you're waiting for then.
     
  5. mduke

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    who are they gonna get better than Brown? Stoops? Willingham?
     
  6. JBIIRockets

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    Well, since OU wont do the losing. Who do you think TX will lose to?
     
  7. mduke

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    I never said that....but 1 of the teams will lose before bowl time. OU could lose any of their remaining games if they don't come to play....(well, except Baylor;))
     
  8. gr8-1

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    Why would they fire Mack? Have you seen his last 4 years versus atm's? atm needs Sherrill back. He knows how to run a dirty program. It's hard to land top recruits when atm is the school you have to sale.

    Counselor, if I may, I think you have a serious hatred for UT. It's kinda sad.

    With regards to the "no we really mean it this time" comment, who the heck thought Mackovic or McWilliams were the answer?

    And why are you rolling your eyes?

    The only thing you can throw in our face right now is OU. Ill take UT's last 4 years over atm's in nearly any sport (women's soccer and equistrian is the exception). But, I won't brag about UT's dominance across the board over atm's. We have a vibrant, diverse city and campus. And quite frankly, we have more money.
     
  9. gr8-1

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    http://tamu.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=140117

    I don't know. Love the enthusiasm though.
     
  10. Refman

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    It looks like Texas could use some new English professors. :)
    A&M has its good points as does Texas...I have spent time in Austin...it's as nice as any other place, but it isn't the be all and end all like you think it is.

    Many of my law school buddies who went to Texas were complaining that when Makovic was introduced as the head coach he was heralded as the next coming of Darryl Royal. Then they said the same thing about Brown. What Brown has shown is an inability to win the big games. Excellent recruiter? Yes. Demonstrated an ability to win big games? Not hardly.

    Remember last basketball season in Austin when a certain team from an hour or so away came into the Erwin Center and beat Texas? :)

    Me too. That Penright is crazy...but maybe that's part of what makes him a good LB.
     
  11. gr8-1

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    touche, refman. Grammar smack. I love it. As for the big games comment, to be determined, imo. I think the last 3 games were big. Oh, and recruiting matters. :)
     
  12. Refman

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    Recruiting matters a lot. RC used to be an excellent recruiter. You don't have that kind of defense for so long and not be able to recruit. The problem has been that he's been unable to do anything with the talent once he got it. Now his recruiting has slipped. I think the game passed him by.
     
  13. The Cat

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    It'll be a cold day in hell the day Mack Brown is fired from UT.

    I'm sorry, but it's like everyone's totally forgotten where we were before he came. This is the second straight season that we've been in national championship contention in November. Did we beat Oklahoma? No, but they're one hell of a team. It's been three years, but in rivalry games against great opponents, streaks happen sometimes.

    Tell me, what other coach has won at Nebraska in the last 11 years? What other coach has led his team to almost 15 consecutive road wins (and a dominant home record as well)? Texas fans are as fairweather as they come. Have we had top-notch talent the last two years? Yup. But, if you look at some of the teams historically that have had consistent talent (FSU, Miami), there's usually one year in about five where they win every game.

    Part of being a college head coach is bringing the talent to the program. He does that, and judging by his record in the last two seasons, he does a pretty good job preparing them on gameday as well. It's just that half the Texas fans jump off the deep end every ****ing time we lose, and I can guarantee you that those type of fans are not running the program.

    Also, refman, winning at Nebraska twice, winning the first non-Texas bowl game in over 30 years, winning at KSU, and having a nearly flawless record against in-state rivals (Tech and A&M) is winning some pretty big games.
     
  14. Refman

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    The Cat--

    I agree with your post entire...until you got to the part about big games. When you're to the point that Texas is right now...the big games are games against top 10 teams, conference title games and the national title game.

    Bottom line: Texas fires their coaches way too early...A&M fires them way too late.
     
  15. 4chuckie

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    Cat you make some great points. But remember John Cooper. He got OSU oh so clase for so many years. He brought us great players (Pace, Eddie, Springs, Katzenmoyer, Galloway, Wilkinson, etc) but could never motivate us to win the Big game (Michigan), never had us prepared for a Bowl Game, and lost games he should have one.
    I like Mack Brown so I don't claim to know anything about the program. But if a coach has better talent and still loses games consistently (rivals, big games, bowls) you have to question him. We waited a long time here in Columbus. We blindly followed a great recruiter who couldn't motivate and wasn't a great coach (how many times in big games did he try to run an option, sickening).
    Texas (like OSU) will neve rhave a problem recruiting. You show up say I'm from Texas and 17-18 year old kids start drooling. It's what you do with the talent once you get it that matters.
     
  16. BrianKagy

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    My God. You mean the athletic administration was gung ho about the new guy they brought in? That they built him up as evidence of the good job they were doing, knowing that if they generated fan enthusiasm over his hiring, season ticket sales would rise...?

    I have yet to see an AD say, upon hiring a coach, "Well, he's not who we really wanted, and we have doubts about his ability to return the program to its glory years, but heck, he's all we've got so let's give him a round of applause."

    Mack Brown has beaten three Top Ten teams while at UT. I guess this refutes your statement that he has an "inability" to win big games, since he's coached in exactly one conference championship game he should have won, and zero national title games. He hasn't won anywhere near enough of them to suit me, but it's ridiculous to say he absolutely "can't" do it.

    4chuckie-- I don't think there's really a natural comparison between Cooper and Brown. Brown's teams, in all but one season, have seemed to improve as the year went on. Cooper's teams had the opposite problem.
     
  17. Refman

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    Maybe they should come up with a nerw catchphrase next time. They've used that next coming of Darryl Royal crap twice already.
     
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    and when eATMe announces their next coach, they can announce him as the next. . . um, the next. . . well, let's see. . . um. . .
     
  20. Refman

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    I found that to be really inventive when I first saw it in 1991. Now it's so old and tired that it's become pathetic.
     

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