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Can Texas go to Fiesta Bowl if Miami and Ohio State both lose 1 game?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by JBIIRockets, Nov 3, 2002.

  1. 4chuckie

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    Purdue could have some surprises, so that could possibly (about as likely as Iraq beating the US in a war) happen. Illinois? They are a very bad team. No way will Illinois beats OSU. Michigan well it's a rivalry anything can happen!

    So they Buckeyes have one losable game (Michigan) one game they could lose if everything goes wrong (Purdue) and one game I feel there is no way they could lose.
     
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  2. gr8-1

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    We could talk about ATM's bowl chances? I think the Alamo Bowl is out of the question, and I don't think the Gallery Furniture Bowl would want you guys again. I suspect ATM could be Boise bound. Maroon on a blue astroturf field. My eyes....:eek:
     
  3. PhiSlammaJamma

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    THE BCS is screwing Houston. Our ranking is 96.
     
  4. Major

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    We could talk about ATM's bowl chances? I think the Alamo Bowl is out of the question, and I don't think the Gallery Furniture Bowl would want you guys again. I suspect ATM could be Boise bound. Maroon on a blue astroturf field. My eyes....

    A&M is likely not bowl-bound. They need to beat either OU or TX along with their other game to have a winning record. They are likely to be 5th in the B12South ahead of Baylor!

    There's no doubt an OU loss is good for Texas.

    Would it hurt the logical argument? Maybe, but the BCS is determined by statistics, not arguments. Would it hurt the SOS? Probably. But, here's the thing. If OU loses (let's use this weekend at A&M as an example), we will jump them in the polls. There's NO way that if a team ranked 1 or 2 loses to an unranked opponent that it only drops to 3. It's just not going to happen.


    I agree that an OU loss doesn't really hurt us, but I think if it came down to 1-loss OU vs. a 1-loss UT, OU goes. I think the pollsters will work it out where OU ends up above TX based on our recent history with them - and I think that's the right thing to do. If both teams are 11-1, I think there's no question OU should be considered the better team (assuming the 1 OU loss is reasonable) until we show that we can beat them.

    OU will also likely win in the computers with Alabama in their schedule and I think they'd win the SOS as well.
     
  5. The Cat

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    It may be the right thing to do, but I wouldn't count on it. Remember 1993, when ND beat FSU, and lost the following week. That's the most comparable scenario that I can think of.

    One poll did it last year, after Colorado totally destroyed Nebraska a couple of weeks earlier, and that got a lot of backlash from the public. I think OU might be ahead of us in the BCS, but I'd be surprised if the penalty for them losing to an unranked opponent is only a drop from 1/2 to 3.
     
  6. NYKRule

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    That sums it up.
     
  7. Refman

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    A&M is not going to a bowl. If that will be what FINALLY gets Slocum fired, then so be it. I have been wanting him fired for 6 years now.

    I think A&M has as much chance of going to a bowl as Texas does the title game...slim and none. Slim just left town.
     
  8. Desert Scar

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    Last year Texas was in a more improbable situation than this year. Last year they needed OU to lose twice, Nebraska to lose once, & Florida to lose twice. All these things happened, only UT then lost to CU to blow their title chances.

    This year we only need 2 of 3 things to happen: Miami to lose 1 out of three losable games, OSU to lose 1 out of two losable games (I'll give you Illinios as slim, but ya'll don't know what you are talking about if you don't think Purdue has a decent chance of winning saturday) or OU to lose (probably twice). This is a better situation than last year for Texas.

    Major, say going into the Big 12 title game 1) KSU (or Nebraska) runs the table (big task, see next statement), 2) CU loses twice (very possible because they play Missouri, Nebraska and Iowa State--same teams KSU plays) & Texas runs the table. Then KSU (or Nebraska) beats OU in the championship. KSU, UT and OU all are then 1-1 against each other with surely Texas having the highest ranking, followed by OU followed by KSU (or Nebraska). I would argue then Texas has a good case for being the rep--as they would be the highest ranked Big 12 team. It would be interesting what the BCS would spit out as well. I agree in pretty much all other scenarios UT could probably not overcome a 1-loss OU team.
     
  9. mduke

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    Still lots of football to be played......OU and texas will lose at least once between the 2 before the season is out.....:p
     
  10. Rocketman95

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    Um, Texas has a much better shot of going to the Fiesta Bowl than A&M has of going to a bowl.
     
  11. Refman

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    Not really. At this point Texas would need a bunch of unlikely things to happen. OSU and Miami losing. Texas not to lose another game...etc etc.

    The BCS will seek to avoid what happened last year. If there are 2 teams with 1 loss and only one undefeated, I'll bet that the 1 loss team that won their conference will get the nod.
     
  12. Rocketman95

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    VaTech, Pittsburgh, and Tennessee are all capable of pulling off the upset of Miami. We're not talking Temple, Rutgers and Vanderbilt here. Plus, Michigan/OSU is a rivalry game where nearly anything can happen when the two teams are that good (well, Michigan isn't that good, but they aren't horrible either).

    Now, Texas beating Baylor is as close to a certainty as you can get. Texas Tech should be a win, but it's not for sure. And the A&M should be a joke like it was two years ago.

    A&M beating Texas and/or OU will not happen. Not to mention that beating Missouri probably won't even happen.

    I'd bet so much more money on Texas going to Tempe than A&M going to Boise.
     
  13. gr8-1

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    I think what happened last year was one loss NU getting in. I'm not sure if there was another one loss team. CU had 4 losses, OU and UT both had two.

    Texas will probably win out. OSU and Miami both losing would be a god send. OSU seems like a jeckyl and hyde team; Miami has looked vulnerable. Texas winning out, OSU and Miami both losing once is more likely than ATM beating OU and/or UT. I'll be rooting for ATM to pull off the upset this week. I hope they keep RC, but regardless, with Mack at the helm, UT will be the #1 state school for as long as it wants.
     
  14. gr8-1

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    It'd be cool if both happened though.
     
  15. Rocketman95

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    I agree. I'm still rooting for an Aggie and Cowboy upset though. Just as hard as I'll be rooting for Purdue, Illinois, Michigan, Tennessee, VaTech and Pittsburgh the rest of the year.
     
  16. mduke

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    What bowls are the Big XII tied up in again? And which one is Ok. State likely to go to?(will finish 6-6, possibly 7-5 if they beat OU or Tech)
     
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    I thought 6-6 got you into a bowl this year?

    Anyways, I'm rooting for a 6-6 A&M team to end up at the Smurf Turf Bowl.
     
  19. mduke

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    Well if everything goes right there will be 2 BCS teams....

    Kansas State, Colorado, Iowa State, Tech are all going to a bowl....2 spots left, who else do you take besides OSU and Nebraska? Baylor, Kansas, A&M probably won't make it, and I don't think Mizzou will either.....

    OSU will go to a bowl.
     
  20. mduke

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    6-6 makes you bowl eligible.
     

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