Can Stephon Marbury help our team more than Rafer Alston does?

That's the incident I was referring to.

Yes I am. Although, I don't think eccentric interviews are much of a distraction. If the Bulls could live and thrive with Rodman, the Rockets can definitely do the same with Marbury.

Good find, I was unaware of this. I still think Rafer has had more detrimental off the court incidents than Marbury. Stephon is still a better player no matter how you look at it. I think he would benefit this team. Rafer Alston is pyrite. Don't be fooled by fool's gold.

 

WOW. Just WOW. Unbelievable. I am TOTALLY convinced. Let's bring in Marbury! (AND BLOW THE TOYOTA CENTER RIGHT OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH!)

 

why not? For the min, why not? Can he really be that much worst then what we have right now?

 

We have been over this numerous times in other threads...but what the hell. Why should he have to accept a buyout less than what he is owed? He is owed his full salary. Both teams entered into that contract (the Knicks did when they traded for him). Why should the player be the one to suffer if both sides want a divorce?

Steph is clearly a better player then Alston. He can hit an open jumper, which would really help our offense. But he does have character issues that Alston doesn't (as far as the team is concerned). I wouldn't be opposed to giving him a 1 yr minimum type of deal....so if he acts up you can get rid of him.

I hear all the cancer talk...but we must have a locker room full of broads if one dude can kill our chemistry in the short time it takes to figure out if he is gonna wild out or not. And the last time I checked, we had tons of vets in our locker room. I ask this all the time...and no one can explain how one dude that you can cut whenever you like can destroy your locker room.

 

I hear you.

Rox is a squad filled with veterans, and stars that are bigger than him. Along with a coach that have been there done that. And i cant see how he can wreck the rox squad, when he cant even wreck the knicks.

 

Marbury would make us better 141 votes 37.30%
Rafer Alston makes us better 237 votes 62.70

I am convinced more than (I voted in this poll) 37.3% of this board has never touched a basketball in their life.

Marbury is a loser.

 

Rafer got mad skills at the PG, just can't shoot... but has been hitting em lately.

 

yeah, that makes a lot of sense....

if this were this case he should have shut his mouth up, suited up, and played. I'm also tired of going back and forth. now Staph is demanding that the Knicks play him or waive him. he is negotiating on his own terms without an agent and he is the one shooting himself in the head, not his teammates as he previously stated.

to stay on topic, Rafer showed us again why he is better for the team than Staph. great game, Skip!

 

I wonder if the thread 'Can Francis help our team' would come up if he is still in NY.

 

marbury is a selfish player before, no need to give him a spot although dont know if he has changed. I'd like wait until Deke is ready to play and get him a spot.

 

Urmm we have Steve Francis who is really mad at Starbury and Alston who fits better than Marbury would.

I say no. It would ruin chemistry.

 

For those of you who say Marbury would hit open shots, what do you base that on? His shooting % is weak. As is what he attempts to pass as defense. And if you think he would move the ball and be a team player, once again, just fooling youself. Give it a rest. If you want a PG to hit open shots, we already have Brooks, an excellent shooter. It is pretty clear the Rockets don't play Alston because of his excellent shooting skills any more than they play Hayes for his. Give it a rest. Marbury would not be an upgrade on Alston because of turnovers and poor defense and the offensive efficiency (however Morey would define that) would not sinificantly increase. The Rockets have no interest in Marbury and for good reason. Didn't we already try this with Francis???

 

I played D-1 and I think he would make the team better, so what's the problem. Marbury is a good player. He didn't live up to his advanced billing, but he's LED a team into the playoffs before. He's a natural pg with natural passing instincts. He's always been better than francis except by blind homers on this board. I think of him as randy moss. He's a really good player on a really good team but a poor one on a poor team. What were people saying about rafer when he was getting into it with sam mitchell in toronto?

 

You bring up the point why he should accept less then he is owed, I bring up the point why do the Knicks have to play him. They are paying his salary and if they feel he should sit his ass on the bench every game then that is their right. Didnt Marbury agree to that as well when he signed the contract. Nowhere does it say the Knicks must play him. So if he wants to play, it will be on another team. If he wants to be on another team then he has to accept less money so he can be released. That is the basis of the concept of negotiations. You give up something to get what you want. The Knicks give up 16-18 million or so to get rid of Marbury and let him play elsewhere and he in turn gives up 3-5 million from the Knicks to be let go. I dont see Joey Dorsey demanding the Rox play him or buy him out. The team has every right to play or sit a player.

You say Marbury is clearly better then Alston. Apparently, he isnt even clearly better then Chris Duhon cuz he couldnt beat him out despite making four times his salary. People remember only the Marbury from his Minnesota days. He has been pretty much garbage everwhere else he has been.

As for bringing him in for the minimum, the Rox are already over the tax and looking to get under. Bringing in another PG just to release him puts us even further over the tax. Plus, if Marbury comes in it pretty much kills Brooks' minutes and tells Francis to just give up. Say what you want, Rafer isnt going to be glued to the bench so that some mediocre PG with tons of baggage can come in and take over.

 

The Knicks don't have to play him. That is their right. And it's also his right to tell them to go to hell and fine me for this missed game when they ask him to suit up in an emergency, when they have already communicated that we have no intentions to play you....and you are only gonna get these minutes here because we have no one else. I wouldn't play either. It's his right to get docked his 400K or whatever.

If you tell an athlete we don't need you and you aren't a part of this team, then pay him his $$$ and let him go. Don't try to have your cake and eat it too. The Knicks just want to bully him into taking less...and this dude would rather have his $20M (that he can't get anywhere else) than take a paycut to be free.

 

I'd sign him for the min. He can be TMac insurance, since he can play the 2-Guard. He doesn't have to play the Point, but he can do that as well. Dorsey might be on the IR for who knows how long. Deke hasn't arrived yet. Will Steve be able to play this season? These are things that Adelman and Morey would have to figure out: if Marbury fits or not.

 

PS: And, he'd have to sign a statement in blood pledging to be Yao Ming's soldier...

 

if you define leading a team by never winning a playoff series, don't we have enough leaders on this team already?