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Can Stephon Marbury help our team more than Rafer Alston does?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pmac, Dec 2, 2008.

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Can Stephon Marbury help our team more than Rafer Alston does?

Poll closed Mar 12, 2009.
  1. Marbury would make us better

    36.5%
  2. Rafer Alston makes us better

    63.5%
  1. King1

    King1 Member

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    Why anyone would want that guy anywhere near our locker room is beyond me. You already have 75% of the board complaining about TMac, Artest is still Artest, and some of you actually want Marbury? What an absolute joke. All his coaches and teammates hate the guy. THEY ARE PAYING HIM TO STAY AWAY FROM THE TEAM!!!!! That's all you need to know.

    If you want Marbury on this team (that is yet to find a role for Artest) then you don't know anything about basketball.
     
  2. opticon

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    lets not even bring up the character issues.

    Steph has not played nba basketball since last year. He is not practiceing or playing.His conditioning is more then likely in the crapper right now. Thats probally the real reason he did not want to go in and play. Steve Francis is probally in better game shape then Marbury is right now.
     
  3. Lonestar

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    Alston is the best PG so far to the Rox, PG is done for this season. Our players were set

    Coach position is the only one to be discussed ;) ;)
     
  4. T_Man

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    I remember this same arguement being discussed about Artest.

    I must say in the last couple of years Steph has carried himself very well....

    He's still not a saint, but you can see that he's grown; so I say give him a chance...

    With the people that are in the locker room I do believe they can handle him and if RA can handle Artest, Steph is just a pimple on a Donkey's Ass...

    T_Man
     
  5. tiger0330

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    Good post, people only see his offensive numbers which tend to make him attractive to fans. Marbury is a sieve on defense, he would be terrible for a defensive team like Houston. I really don't see him being a difference maker in 1/2 season, he'll need to adjust to a new system and he'll never play defense so why bother.
     
  6. leebigez

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    I think sometimes a guys rep keeps going even when the guy has changed. Ricky Davis comes to mind also. A guy like Stephen Jackson is also on the list. Not to mention, we're not trying to get all boyscouts either. If he's a minimum deal, why not?
     
  7. Ikorose

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    Artest and Marbury aren't even in the same league. Whereas coaches and teammates always had good things to say about Artest, nobody has ever had a good word about Marbury, not even his own family.

    I'd never question Marbury's talent, because if that was the case, it would be a no-brainer.
     
  8. King1

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    Please enlighten me as to what you consider "carrying yourself well"? Is it being high on TV iterviews, blackmailing one coach, alienating his teammates, current coach and the entire organization, need I go on.......?

    He'd like to make people believe that everyone is out to get him, but in the in end, he's still the same Stephon Marbury. I would have noticed a real change if he decided to play in the game and put his ego aside, instead he chose to pout like always. Let's bring in Plaxico Burress to play shooting guard too.
     
  9. across110thstreet

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    lol, are you kidding? since his arrival to the Knicks, he has had public feuds with every coach, GM, owner, and player.

    he was involved in a sexual harassment lawsuit that cost the team tens of millions.

    he quit on the team last year after his father passed away, he took an unnecessary surgery and hasn't contributed in almost a year.

    the Staph experiment in MSG has been nothing short of a collassal FAILURE.

    it will be remembered as one of the worst eras in Knicks history.
     
  10. bjshot

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    I can't believe that more than 1/3 fans want the biggest loser in NBA history. Rockets now need no more player other than bring back Deke and honor him. They just need play harder night in and night out.
     
  11. Christopher

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    What the hell is wrong with you people?

    Marbury is possibly the worst player in the history of the league as far as ruining the atmosphere in the locker room goes.

    On top of that, he is now old, and far from the handy player he once was YEARS ago.

    I can't believe anyone would even think of wanting him on this team.
     
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    You know... I NEVER EVER LIKED Marbury, but after given it some THOUGHT. I would want Marbury on this team. We already have Ron Artest and he was a trouble maker. Marbury is old now, maybe he'll wise up like Ron. He is a SUPER upgrade over Reefer thats for sure and he can take the load off our gimp superstar tracy mcfading.
     
  13. T_Man

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    First off.....

    Doing this whole scenario, Steph has basically been very professional (you can't aks no more than that).

    I love the fact that no one knows about the outside work that he does for the neighborhood and the kids...

    Most of you know about his shoes being affordabel but you half of you have no ideal of why he did that.

    Everyone can change... Sometimes it takes some people longer than others to mature, so why not give him the same chance.

    Now for the kicker... Go back and look at the old Artest threads.... Most of you called him everything but the DEVIL himself...

    You called him a cancer, trouble and everything else but the child of GOD....
     
  14. verse

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    ignore my vote. I should've stylused no.

    marbury is a team cancer. he has never, I repeat, NEVER made ANY team he has been on better. NEVER! do you people realize how damning that is??? for all the stats he has put up, he is one of the worst teammates in nba history, and that is no hyperbole.

    as horrible as skip is, he isn't cancerous. reread the above post about how his team is paying him to STAY AWAY.
     
  15. King1

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    Like refusing to play in a game professional? I'll await the answer,lol.
     
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    first off, this whole scenario has been going on for three seasons now, going back to when Larry Brown was coach.

    you have not been following the Knicks obviously. Staph Marbury has publicly humiliated himself as well as the Knicks Organization by blackmailing Isiah Thomas after they had a fight on their team flight after Thomas benched him.

    did you bother to skip everyone telling you the timeline since he arrived in NYC? sexual harassment lawsuits, public outbursts of humiliation, feuds with every single coach who has been here.

    your assessment that he has been professional is nothing short of delusional.
     
  17. langal

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    he couldn't make the Knicks better.
     
  18. T_Man

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    That has been debated to death on another Forums board, so I am not going to go there....

    If i were treated the way he was treated THIS YEAR.... I would have done the same thing.
     
  19. T_Man

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    across110thstreet,

    I am not saying that the man has been a saint.... Not even going to try and defend his past...

    I am saying that everyone should be giving a chance to change and I cannot and will not judge him today for what he has done in the past. I will only judge him for how he is acting today. I am saying that the man has acted profesionally with the way he has HANDLED this situation, in the past he would have blown up and did something stupid on day one.

    Again, most people on this board were saying the same thing about Artest and his past when this same scenario came up last year.
     
  20. King1

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    How was treated unfairly? D'Antoni didn't want him ruining the team's chemistry (he's not welll liked by his teammates) so he chose to sit him. He's being paid 21 million dollars a year. He's an employee, let's not forget that. When he was called on to play, he should have played. If you or I did that, we'd be fired. It's that simple.
     

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