Correct. It's hard to compare a player with a lot of championships to display while being one of the cores to a player with just one final appearance.
By this logic, the 2015 Rockets were stacked. After all, in game 6 against the Clippers, we were able to overcome a late 3rd quarter 17 point deficit with Harden on the bench. At least Curry was out there drawing double teams and distorting the defense. In the Clippers game 6 win, Harden was on the bench for the duration of the comeback. So were we stacked in 2015?
The classic Harden homer double standard: Harden has a bad game while the team still wins: "Finally these bums gave him a little help" Curry has a bad game when his team wins: "Look how stacked this team is!" Not to mention, the number of times I had to hear that we shouldn't make these types of judgments off of one game when we were talking about Harden. Well, the same should apply here.
Ii used to strongly dislike curry but the harden fan bois go out of their way since they think they’re comparable if you can’t prop someone up, bring the other person down….except that they’re nowhere comparable in the first place
What am I missing? Curry is about to get his 4th ring in 8 years with 6 Finals appearances. The man is a special basketball player. All-Time Great player with a Franchise that is orchestrating one of the great runs of success in NBA history. Curry has a ton to do with it. You got to tip your hat to that whole group.
The premise of my argument is that the three players I mentioned (KG, Moses and Giannis) are skilled two way bigs and the GS players, excluding Curry, complimented them well enough to win a title. No, I don't think KG, Moses or Giannis bring any leadership or culture issues. I'd argue those are strengths of all three.
What do you think would happened the last 8 years if Harden were on the Warriors and Curry on the Rockets. Obviously impossible to say and I don’t know what I would really say either.
Likely that Harden either pisses off or is pissed off by his teammates and none of their other key players stay in GS. None of them likely look nearly as good in a non-motion offense. I think the strength of GS is not just Curry, but the system, and Klay/Draymond and how cohesive they all are - and the patience the franchise had to build and not tinker too much. So without those teammates and without the right coach that builds a Curry-driven system and with Morey probably trading half the team every year, its unlikely Houston wins anything either.
Idk y this concept is so hard for anti harden folks to understand. back then and now. Curry doesn't have to go super nova every single game and his teammates can still carry him to victory. Kd, klay, wiggins, etc. Rocket Harden has to go super nova every game and maybe beat other folks. he can't afford any off games. When he does u can bet your ass that folks on here will btch about him choking. as if a 30 pt-40 pt game = choking. GSW is stacked, has been and will b until curry retires b/c their owner isn't afraid to go all in with his check book. not that hard of a concept to grasp. It's a combination of system, coaching and an owner that is willing to spend that makes life easier on curry.
My history is bad. Can you remind me if those three while being in their prime recruit/attract, elevate or had protracted (5 years) successful work-relationship with a 2nd and/or 3rd max-player type of star? If you can, I'll tell you that your argument has some wheels.
Maybe he's the reason for that. He needs an offense built around him, minimizes his role players by making them stand-still 3 pt shooters, and talented players get annoyed with him and leave or he gets annoyed with them and forces them out. He's the cause, not a victim of circumstances. If it wasn't clear as a Rocket, it's been shown in NY and Philly - both places he wanted to play and still annoyed everyone around him. Curry does the hard work - moving without the ball, creating chaos, etc - to enable his teammates to succeed even when he's not shooting well. And that makes people actually like playing with him and stay in GS.
Yeah championship teams really have to be built a certain way. It's not enough to just have talent you need to be able to maximize that talent and also get a bit of luck (for instance, D'Angelo Russell getting traded from Brooklyn led to them getting Wiggins). Steve Kerr is an excellent coach, and with multiple rings under his belt as both a player and coach, he's able to get buy in from role players to follow his culture and offense which is why a guy like Wiggins can like phenomenal as hell. Circumstances dictate a lot about a player. Let's also not act like the Harden years were awful either, especially with Chris Paul. On paper, the Dwight-Harden combo should have been unstoppable but neither James nor Dwight bought into it and we had a system that had them at odds with each other instead of one with real synergy that played to their strengths. That's also on Morey for hiring McHale.
This clown started off the year as a Brooklyn fan, switched to Philly the second half of the season and finished a Boston fan. Followed his bearded bum ass loser hero till fail (like every year) called Luka fans ‘Nazis’ along the way and then switched to another team in the hopes Curry doesn’t win again.
@jerryclark Is it true you aren't a Brooklyn Nets fan anymore? I remember you going hard for that team, what happened?
@butthole sensation and @Salvy from nets fans to bucks fans to suns fans to mavs fans to now warriors fans Sad losers whoring themselves out
Its been a rough couple of years for you in sports thou, its like everything you like sucks ass.... James Harden, Brooklyn, Philly, Celtics.... Maybe you should listen to us on these subjects and wont be let down anymore... Its okay to be wrong, just remember you don't have to thou...
