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Can Steph carry his own team thread.

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by jiggyfly, Dec 22, 2020.

  1. tksense

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    To be fair, Kerr did openly admit to taking losses early in the season in order develop Wiseman. It's all about next season, they'd say. So the team was playing with this ambiguous attitude all along until Wiseman is out for the season (along with Oubre), and voila, this coincides with their winningest stretch.

    In the end, Kerr's assertion actually got backed up by their W-L records.
     
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  2. Zboy

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    This.

    It wouldnt even have been close.

    Absolutely no team would be beating Harden + Draymond + Durant + Klay.

    And like you said absolutely no way CP3 + Curry were going 7 games against that team.
     
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  3. icewill36

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    giving curry props does not diminish what james did yall. he had a great season. they probably make it the playoffs outright if the wiseman experiment hadnt been such a failure. they got better when he went out with injury.

    curry did what was expected of a superstar so props to him. personally i expected them to make the playoffs before the season started. you have draymond, who is still a top 3 defender in the league, wiggins, who has been a 20+ a game scorer, and oubre who has put up 18+, and top 2 pick around a SUPERSTAR, that should be enough to make it. even though its not stephs fault, its annoying that he won't get roasted by the media like many other stars if they fell short of simply making the playoffs. james gets killed for ONLY getting trash rosters compared to other contenders to the second or third round.
     
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  4. Zboy

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    Dwight was injured in the playoffs? And you can't assume that CP3 would get injured playing with Curry. Maybe he got hurt b/c he was carrying us that series.

    But no, I don't think it's that simple. I'm just using zboy's terrible logic against him.
     
  6. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    You had all-star and DPoY Draymond Green.
    You had #1 overall pick Andrew Wiggins.
    You had #2 overall pick James Wiseman.
    You have Steve Kerr.
    You have championship pedigree...

    And you get subbed out in the last few plays because Kerr doesn't think you're good enough to be on the floor, defensively? You can argue that he has 5 fouls or w/e logic you want to use, but maybe just play defense without fouling.

    The Warriors let Morant have his way with them, in clutch situations. That's sad.

    As dogged on as James Harden has been for his lack of defense, he's never been subbed out like this.
     
  7. apollo33

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    Like CP3 and Curry would even make it to the WCF. With CP and Curry would take turns getting injured.
     
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  8. Zboy

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    If only Curry had super star help like Morant did. Then maybe Curry would have made the playoffs too.
     
  9. francis 4 prez

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    that's why it was so important to lock in this playoff miss. can't undo that. playing with a DPOY, a #1 pick, a #2 pick, and a COY and missed the playoffs.
     
  10. flamingdts

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    8 assists and 13 turnovers in Curry's 2 play-in games, the playmaking is just not there.

    This is why Green is so important to the Warrior's success.
     
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  11. wekko368

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    Why are you judging current players by their past accomplishments? That's ridiculous. And using draft position as some sort of metric is even more ridiculous.

    They were in a situation where they were trying to intentionally foul the Grizzlies. It's hard to intentionally foul without fouling.

    Your standards for Curry are WAY too high.
     
  12. francis 4 prez

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    asik was coming off a very strong 3 ppg season. hard to miss the playoffs with a guy like that.
     
  13. Icehouse

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    Wait....Draymond is a DPOY finalist this season?
     
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  14. Zboy

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    He is a scorer first, playmaker second, and does not make the players around him better like Harden does.

    Harden has made plenty of scrubs look way better than they are.

    Which is why he has always dragged his teams to the playoffs and most of the time in top brackets in a tough western conference.
     
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    His teammates are offensively limited. If they have any hope of winning, that means Curry must shoulder the scoring load. When that happens, his assist numbers go down. Common sense, right?
     
  16. francis 4 prez

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    apparently all the revealed votes have been for jokic, but it would be beautiful for steph to win it now.
     
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  17. francis 4 prez

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    stupid sexy maury trying to build a good team. i was told by dunc'd on that bob myers was the executive of the decade and kerr was the coach of the decade and steph was the 2nd best player of the decade. i would assume with that kind of braintrust this must be a pretty well built team and steph would easily, through his gravity and ability to make his teammates better, guide this team to an easy playoff berth.
     
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  18. Zboy

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    When Klay comes back next year, he can carry Curry and the rest of the Warriors.
     
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    Sure they missed the playoffs, but at least their owner wasted 117 million dollars on the luxury for the privilege of missing the playoffs.... I'm told that's what good owners do
     
  20. francis 4 prez

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    that would be pretty bad if he left if things weren't working out (i'm sure they'll get someone in a trade). guys like him that win with their original teams usually don't leave their teams. jordan, duncan, kobe, dirk. the warriors made curry. it would be bad for him to go ring-chasing after the teams he had the last 5 years and how much their fans love him.
     
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