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Can Steph carry his own team thread.

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by jiggyfly, Dec 22, 2020.

  1. Clutch City1993

    Clutch City1993 Bury Me In The H

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    Curry sack riders can say all they want.

    Its kind of sad a player some ppl put in the modern GOAT conversation finally has a "crazy" year at 33 years old and has been in the league for over a decade.
     
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  2. wekko368

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    Finally? Curry had a "crazy" year in 2016.

    People are making a big deal about this year because Curry has played great despite having a weak supporting cast. He outperformed expectations and silenced his critics.
     
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  3. T for 3

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    Those early MVP years were “crazy” years. He didn’t have to play the way he played this year, but during those years he revolutionized the league much like Harden did in his prime years here.
     
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    I must say I undesestimated Curry. To get that team this far, impressive.
     
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  5. Icehouse

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    Outperformed expectations? How so? Here are some actual preseason expectations for GS. Revisionist history ain’t necessary.

    https://baselinetimes.com/nba-2020-2021-power-rankings-preseason-edition/

    https://www.si.com/.amp/nba/2020/12/22/nba-power-rankings-opening-week

    https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nba/2020/12/28/22202665/nba-power-rankings-early-observations

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...esetting-league-hectic-offseason?platform=amp

    https://baselinetimes.com/nba-2020-2021-power-rankings-preseason-edition/
     
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  6. wekko368

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    Re-read what I wrote. Curry absolutely outperformed expectations.

    By the way, given that the Warriors finished the regular season as the 8th seed, how does that change your outlook on Curry?
     
  7. durvasa

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  8. Icehouse

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    My position hasn't changed. He has enough support on his team for them not to be in their current position.
     
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  9. DavidJuan

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    You are funny :)
     
  10. jiggyfly

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    It's the same that Pop does and the same thing Phil Jackson is famous for, I have no idea why this would upset anybody.
     
  11. jiggyfly

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    I guess now people think getting a team to the 8th seed and probably getting swept is an accomplishment these days.

    Or that Klay is some kinda superstar because he is the only reason they are not at full strength.
     
  12. wekko368

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    Makes sense. You're clearly holding Curry to a higher standard than Harden. That's fair.
     
  13. Icehouse

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    Not at all. I have seen Harden get worse teams to higher than the 8 seed. Same with many other players (unsure why you are fixated on Harden). I did see Harden fail in one season where he finished 8th on a team that shouldn't have, and it was labeled a failure of a season and he was left off the All-NBA team. I'm holding Curry to the same standard that I hold other great players...making the playoffs should be an automatic even if you are surrounded by garbage, which he isn't. You are the one claiming having a good individual season on a team that didn't win a lot, or that finishing 8th, is exceeding expectations for a star player.
     
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    When?

    And this GSW is clearly a poorly constructed team. No interior defense, no rim protection, no rebounding. Garbage.
     
  15. DavidJuan

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    I don't think the NBA or the media even know what to make of it. It sounds like making the play-in games won't count as making the playoffs. On the other hand, if these games are part of the regular season, why did they crown Curry as scoring champion when both him and Beal are still playing? Are they going to have a separate category outside regular season and playoffs just for the play-in games?
     
  16. durvasa

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    Oh, interesting. I think you're right. If a player scores 64 in a play-in game, that doesn't erase the current record of 63 points, for instance.
     
  17. durvasa

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    5th in defense is pretty remarkable for a garbage team that has no interior defense, rim protection, or rebounding.
     
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    Yeah, it really is. But if they're able to make the playoffs, those deficiencies will get exposed.

    Wasn't our defense highly ranked in the bubble last year? We all remember how that turned out for us.
     
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    What in the world? We played 8 games in the bubble.

    There was a 10 game stretch earlier THIS season that would say the Houston Rockets were one of the best offensive and defensive teams in the entire NBA. Small samples have a way of being misleading and not representative of what might happen over an entire season against more opponents.

    We had the 2nd best defensive rating of the entire first round at 101.7 when we faced OKC.

    Then we played the 1 specific team that was meant to be able to completely exploit our small ball strategy and the defense fell apart.

    Why would a team’s performance against 1 specific playoff team be used to judge the effectiveness of its defense compared to the rest of the nba?

    The Warriors played 72 games this season. Not a tiny sample...Is it possible that the Warriors face a particular matchup that exposes their defense? Yeah, but that doesn’t make their defense bad or that what they did this season was entirely a mirage.
     
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  20. Icehouse

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    Those "deficiencies" will get exposed by better teams, or in GS's case, one of the best teams in the league. The 72 game sample size vs all teams in the league clearly shows that GS has interior defense, rim protection and rebounding. Good try though.
     

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