Can someone explain to me why Mayweather and Pacman...

Well, thats the difference between boxers today and of before. Back then, those guys just wanted to fight. Now theres too many politics in the game. It's becoming more about marketing and promoting. You think Ali would have demanded Fraizer to take a drug test or anything else just to fight him? Hagler & Hearns would have never put up all these hurdles to fight each other. These guys wanted to be the best and wanted to prove it by fighting the best.

 

i'm taking my talents to south beach.

 

His natural weight WAS welter a few years ago.

Now? He hasn't fought there in over 2 years and his last 4 fights have been at Jr. MW or MW. I don't think he can make it anymore.

 

I'd like to see him beat their asses. He reminds me of Roy Jones Jr.

 

Alright, I concede.

Mayweather and Pacquiao are fighters who weigh near the same weight come fight night as they do during the weigh-in. I doubt Williams does but the rules do not exclude those who practice weight-drain; on the contrary, in fact, the practice is quite common.

 

No way man.. Roy had so much power in his punches. Paul Williams don't seem like to have much punching power. He has nice combination and uses his reach very well, though.

 

Perhaps you should find out just a little bit about Paul Williams before making this thread or these absurd statements. The primary reasons Mayweather and Pacquiao hasnt & will continue to not likely fight Paul Williams is first because he is a draw and second but just as important is that, Paul Williams has been fighting at Jr Middleweight and Middleweight 154 and 160lb since 2008.
His last fight at welterweight was in june 2008 against quintana and you'd have to go back to 2007 since he fought anyone not name quintana at welterweight.

To put that in perspective, pacquiao didnt start campaigning at welter until the coto fight in Nov 2009 and that was at a catchweight of 144! (While he did face De la hoya in Dec 08 at Welter that was supposedly a one time thing and was followed by him moving back to 140 to face Hatton.)

Mayweather was retired from (Hatton)07 to 09(marquez) some say because he didnt want to risk his 0 against Margarito, Cotto, Mosley and Pwill without nearly the financial incentives he received in fighting "safer" and immensely more profitable fights in Oscar and Hatton.

The fact of the matter is, neither Pac and to a lesser extent mayweather had oppurtunity nor incentive to fight Pwilliams. Perhap a Pwill couldstill make welterweight, but even if he does... he neither has the ranking (welterweight) nor the public demand, or the visibility and most importantly marketability to demand the fight. I'd love to see Pwill fight either guys at welter, but unless he beats a top ranking welterweight, heck fights a welter first atleast, such as berto, he has little claim to demand a fight with either Pac or Mayweather.

 

this is one advantage UFC has..... the president makes the fight, and if you don't want that fight? bye bye to your career

 

Not true. He doesn't force friends to fight. Same reason he hasn't forced Koscheck to fight Jon Fitch or forced Silva to fight Machida even when he was dancing around at LHW.

 

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Chad Ochocinco takes swag lessons from Roy Jones Jr.

 

Obviously Jones is way more explosive, but I just mean in terms of being a freak athlete.

 

Um no - the thing that is holding him back due to his size and age and failure to fight at WW in over two years - that's why he was fighting Cintron another former WW at 154. Fight promoters aren't going to bet tens of millions of dollars on his inability to do so. See Jose Luis Castillo's rematch debacles vs. Corrales.

 

Paul Williams is solid, but super overrated. Sergio Martinez beat him when they fought, IMO, in a decision that was pretty questionable.

The main reason they don't want Paul Williams is his drawing power sucks. You watch his fights on HBO and he can't even sell out his live fights. On top of that, even though he's overrated, he is an admittedly dangerous opponent, so neither of those guys have anything to gain by fighting him.

Honestly, both Manny and Floyd have proven themselves and this point and need to man up, fight each other, and retire. Both of them have one foot out the door anyway.

 

All guys they both avoiding!!!

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I really get upset at Pacquiao because I have never seen him in the ring with a dangerous counterpuncher. I continue see him fight aggressive non-defensive boxers or guys who are defensive but never counter. I want to see him in the ring with one of these guys more. At least I've seen Floyd fight Mosley, Judah and even Corley before he fought Floyd was a solid boxer.

 

True. It's a catch 22. To get good opponents, he needs drawing power, but he can only get drawing power by beating a good opponent.

In other words, he needs a break, just like a lot of people.

 

He bunches a lot, but is his style isn't super exiting. However mayweathers style is super boring as well. He was a really good boxer, but he didn't get big until he started his act and the DLH fight. I think DLH took mayweather to a new level and I wish he would recognize that and do the same for others.

 

I know, because you started with a conclusion and are going to ignore any evidence that points away from it. See Dakota, Da, among others.

He might desire it but it's weight that he can't make and that, more importantly, no promoter is going to wager millions of dollars on him making. He could have easily fought Cintron at 147 - that's where Cintron was best....but they magically both fought at 154...hmmm.....do the math..

I can't make 147 anymore either- at least Paul can get title fights at 154 and 160. I mean I can probably make 160 but Paul won't even return my calls. . By your logic it is because I am feared and avoided at this weight.