Can some one tell me what Eddie Griffen is good for?

In otherwords, the people who agree with you.

 

We have Steve, Yao, and Cuttino. If all three are 20pt per game scorers in the future, what do you want from Eddie. Show me one team with 4 guys who all average over 20 pts a game. Eddie will never be a great scorer on this team, because if this team remains intact, he won't need to be.

 

If you reason like that then no team ever care about developing their players. If he turns out great and we can't expect to sign him, we can always trade him for lesser players or draft picks. Do it before he becomes unrestricted free agent.
I personally think EG will develop into a second tier star like someone else mentioned. Whether he stays a Roz forever or not, we will still come out ahead.

 

In my opinion, Eddie Griffin will just become an above average player.

Other than Rox fans, I never heard anyone give him such high credit.

Well, just because Rox used 3 draft picks on EG, so they have to continue put faith on him. Just like buying a share.

Jerry West dares to trade Gooden even in his Rookie year (I thought Gooden is playing better than EG right now), well, it is bad or good, I don't know yet, but I definitely admire his courage.

 

First of all, Eddie is 6'10 depending on who you listen to. If MoT is 6'9 or 6'10, then Griffin is 6'11. Also, he has a HUMONGOUS wingspan, so there's no debate about his size.

So he'll never be as strong as Amare, so? Is that all we're looking for? In a year or two, Amare may very well be one of the strongest players in the entire league.

That's not what Eddie is. Eddie will get stronger and will continue to put on muscle.

What makes us think he has a great work ethic? We KNOW it for a fact. Just like we know Cat does, and just like we know Cato has the ugliest SUV on earth. He works hard in the offseason, and put on close to 20lbs at last count (early in the season). He also is always working on his post moves, rebounding, timing, and toughness as reports from the Chron and Doc Rocket (summer) have told us. Again, there's no debate. Eddie Griffin works very hard off the court.

He may very well become a barely-decent player. But please, don't tell us he has no potential. What IS potential? Potential is having the TOOLS to do something, but having to sharpen those tools with...what else? Work Ethic.

Eddie Griffin is a 6'10 PF, with humongous wingspan. He has pogostick-like shotblocking ability, and is a very good, if not great, rebounder. He's currently listed at 230lbs, which is BS (he's probably around 220-something), and is constantly adding muscle.wight to his frame. His body VERY obviously has room for growth, as evidence of how effective his weight training was over the summer.

He has the potential, and he has the work ethic. It's only up to him to work on becoming the player everyone thought he would be.

 

Hi, Sane

Just curious, for those 20 years old player currently in NBA, like Amare, Curry, Chandler, Tony Packer, Kwame Brown.

Who dont have potential? Who showing more potential right now?

 

At the Rockets official pre-season weigh-in it was listed that Griffin came in at 232, adding 12lbs of muscle to his frame. I am not sure why many of the media outlets still list him as 220. I guess the Rockets did not submit the new information in time much like the Yao Ming 7'5" - 7'6" height differential you see in media reports.

If Eddie put on 12lbs of muscle over the summer and does the same again this summer and gets up to 244, then I think he will be well on his way to banging in the post.

 

I think I should make it clear.

Every 20 years old play has "potential" to become something. It is easy to say so because it is not real, it is not now, and it is future.

Who can predict the future? At least not the people in this forum. So I have no opinion about keeping EG or not.

But based on reality, based on now, I will say he is not a starting PF in the west, just now.

I am 1000% sure.

 

They all have potential but that list only has 5 players. You should be happy we have the 6th! Or would you rather be another team that doesn't even own a "potential" player?

 

1) I can't predict the future but I think I have a valid argument to say EG has potential. I would not have a valid argument if I say Cato has potential.
2) The West has so many good PF and EG is not as good as they are yet but he is holding up OK. He has not let them go off for 30pts, 20 rebs in his face. Another thing, you can't expect the Roz or any team for that matter to have the best player at every position!? EG and MoT are about equal right now. Each has his pluses and minuses. If Roz does not start EG, they have to start Taylor and argument has been made that we already have enough offensive weapons to start the game and we need fire power (Taylor) off the bench.

 

This blind Eddie hatred is just killing me. Can you honestly say that Eddie has not brought at least some positives to this team? His shotblocking and rebounding alone earns him some quality playing time. He shoots the 3 as well as cuttino for god's sake! He hustles and keeps balls alive with his long arms. he runs the break, fills the lanes. He's better than he was last year, and will surely be even better next year. He's more aggressive and confident in his abilities. I just dont understand where all this hate is coming from. You're saying you just want to give up on him, that giving him any minutes is a waste. Your reasoning is idiotic, that if we give him minutes he will either become too good or not good enough! What you fail to realize is that this slower development speed is good for the rockets. Eddie will come into his own as we become real contenders, and he won't demand as much money as he would if he quickly became a star. I dont know what your underlying motive is with this thread, hikanoo. Would you rather we just get rid of Eddie and sign Tyrone Hill (the mythical veteran power forward who will solve all the team's problems)?

 

i remember when the rockets management several years ago were saying that roderick rhodes had potential.

eddie has the potential to potentially have the potential as roderick rhodes, but that potential has the potential to suck horribly.

 

Very valid points. I agree with part of what you said. What I might dispute is the potential of some of these players on your list. I think EG is on a "short" list of potential 2nd tier stars. It is hard to know who is right. Only the future will tell.

I imagine you'd suggest to trade for established players now. It is just different philosophy, I think. Some like to build with draft choices, some like to trade. Let's see ... Drexler worked out. Barkley so so, Pippen was a bomb. There is no guarantee either! It certainly makes sense to have a mix of young and experienced players. We are supposed to have enough ... Rice, Cato, MTaylor, Cat are not in-experienced players although it seems that way sometimes!

 

You are funny!
Let me say this, if our parents did not believe in potential, they would not have sent us to elementary school, right?

 

Don't give up on Eddie yet...everyone seems so impatient. Where would Jermaine O'neal be if everyone had give up on him? Now he's one of the best PF's in the game. Eddie is no Jermaine O'neal, but he has shown flashes of his capability, and he has definitely picked up his game over the last couple of games. He couldn't have picked a better time, so I don't doubt his hunger for the playoffs. Just because he isn't all emotional on the court doesn't mean that he doesn't have any fire in him.