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Can Some Knowledgable Person Breakdown Coach McHale's Offense

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by apollo33, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Member

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    DD.... seriously... give it up. I know this just a frustration rant here, because you claim to know and have played organized basketball before earlier in your life, I know you know better than this. McHale made a few mistakes and should have had Lowry push the tempo mid way through the 4th more I agree, but for a first year coach he is doing just fine and you know this.

    Adelman would have this team at the exact same record if not worse, and you know this as well. So give it up with crying over spilled milk, and come up with some more well thought of analysis.

    Is McHale a perfect coach.... no... but the past two games have been completely different then the two before them when they lost the games in horrible fashion. You know why... Effort.

    The Clippers and Boston game came down to the other team being just a little bit better than the Rockets. The Rockets effort has been much better and against most NBA teams they would have won those games. They just so happen to play a very hot Celtics team and the 2nd most talented team in the West... the Clippers, who had played the Rockets very well.
     
  2. dachuda86

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    The offense works if...you have Larry Bird.
     
  3. dobro1229

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    Naw, Larry Bird was a catch and shoot, drive to the rim guy. McHale and Parish were the low post threats.

    So Gasol would be your McHale, and Martin would be your Bird.


    -And Yao would be your Parish, Mutumbo would be your Bill Walton, Lee would be your Danny Ainge etc. Obviously you cant compare the 80's Celtics to who the Rockets could be with Gasol or another dominant low post player with this team but you catch my drift.
     
  4. HollaIFyaHEMI

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    You guys are such haters. McHale still has a better record than Adelman, with an even lesser version of a team. Our players have obviously outperformed, and just took 2 teams in a row to OT (these teams ave legitimate superstars and rosters)

    So we lost, you want to blame McHale and not the lack of talent. Which one is it? Isn't this what all of you stupid tankers want anyway? Your mood swings is starting to make me think clutchfans is like every other board.
     
  5. durvasa

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    Personally, I don't think anything has really changed. We're pretty much the same team that was 6 or 7 games above .500 at the all-star break.

    This team is roughly about as good as it was last year. That is, close to a .500 team that might make the playoffs but doesn't have much of a chance to win a round. After two legitimately bad games out of the break, we've played more at our level the last 2 games and lost in overtime to good teams.
     
  6. Entropy

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    Not for long at this rate.
     
  7. nachbarFTW

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    This is the first game where I openly questioned McHale's coaching throughout.
    Everybody has there bad days at work, one bad game is going to happen to every team in the league. If the team doesn't rebound from this sad performance, then I think we should start talking about McHale's coaching tactics.
     
  8. Billionzz

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    The defense is better than last year and I think we have better players that's why I can't understand why they just don't run RA's offense.

    It seems like the logical thing to do especially since our offense looks like crap.

    Remember last year how it was always said that the d league team ran the same offense as the Rockets so they would be familiar with it when they came up. I think it was Morris in an interview that said that the d league team was running a different offense then the Rockets ran this year, I wonder if they are running RA's offense down there.
     
  9. dachuda86

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    the high pick and roll and then looking around for something after it fails every time has got to go.
     
  10. dachuda86

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    I'm not comparing them to the Celtics. I'm saying MaHale's offense only works if you have a star player. I'm also not theorizing what ifs as though we somehow magically have Gasol on our team. I'm just saying McHale doesn't use offense that helps our players.
     
  11. apollo33

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    someone called?

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  12. HollaIFyaHEMI

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    His offense does create room in the post...too bad Scola just fumbles the ball away at this stage of his career.
     
  13. Dreamin

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    That b-ball breakdown video with "Coach Nick" breaks down some of the stuff we run.

    But its like guys were saying above we need a guy who can operate from low post while attracting doubles. A number one go to option. If we had a younger Jefferson or Gasol instead of Scola then we would be making serious noise.

    Just like D'Antoni couldnt get his style implemented properly until he had a good PG, same thing with McHale excpet he needs a big. Though he is doing a much better job of holding it together with what he has then D'Antoni was during the pre-Lin era.
     
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    Alot of Adelman's offense requires a good passer in the high post. In his past teams, this guy was Chris Webber and Brad Miller. More recently it was Chuck Hayes. None of the bigs (and the wings for that matter) can very well. Lowry is the only guy with Scola being a distant second.

    Chuck needs to come back one way or another. Given that we get nothing out of the center position, how good would this team be if Chuck was still here throwing outlet passes, playing smart individual and team defense, bullying bigs out of the paint and giving this team a sense of toughness. I guarantee you Scola, Maritn & Lowry would be much happier, with better stats.
     
  15. OlajuwonFan81

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    Overall I agree with your sentiments....but you must admit this offense he last few games is frustrating to watch. It just seems that the easy baskets that we always had under Adelman just aren't there this season.
     
  16. Fiah

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    Basically, we are in a mid-season slump that is usually endured with the help of a super star.[/QUOTE]

    Excellent video that highlights the Rockets common offensive sets.
     
  17. heypartner

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    why would a knowledgeable person respond to a thread that is making a mockery of Coach.

    maybe phrase it a different way next time.
     
  18. VBG

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    Ok, first quarter of last night's game the offense looked really good. The ball was moving and Kevin Martin was beating Ray Allen off the dribble and creating for others.

    2nd quarter, all of this disappeared and it was a lot of dribbling on the perimeter and the penetration was head down penetration from Goran Dragic. No real catch and shoot opportunities.

    Third quarter, Celtics started fouling a lot but the Rockets were getting decent looks.

    Foruth quarter, we started initiating our offense with 10 seconds left on the clock every time and WE DO NOT HAVE AN ISO BREAKDOWN PLAYER WHO CAN CREATE A SHOT IN 5 seconds. So I have no idea why we were doing that and it cost us the game plain and simple.
     
  19. kcarro

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    What are you all talking about that was a great watchable lose. :rolleyes:
     
  20. davidio840

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    I think McHale is trying to run the inside out offense. Put the ball in the post and pass back out. The problem is, he never has any of his players cutting to the rim. Also, Scola's post game has fallen off big time and Dalembert doesn't have a post game. They both have butterfingers also.

    McHale's offense would work great with a big like Yao or Gasol. That is likely why Morey is so keen (so we think) on getting Gasol.
     

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