Can Green + Sengun be our version of Fox + Sabonis?

Fox is a legit top 15 player

 

Ok, cool, guys who can't let it going to go are going to toss shade at ROY Banchero because "it's a shooters league" in favor of Smith who - as a shooting specialist, shot 30% on predominaltly wide open shots last year.

On a related note, did you know the Houston Oilers were the greatest football team? They take the ball from goal to goal like no ones ever seen?

 

Ah I see we're talking about PROJECTED player and not the actual one we saw, never mind.

 

I mean....theyre rookies. Little balls of clay. It'd be stupid to judge them this early. Also our coach was probably worse than G League coaches. I know you don't line Bari and that's fine. I have higher hopes for him. If he's trash in year 3 you can tell me that you told me so. We shall see.

 

OK let's go there:

First of all, Looney is 7 years older than Sengun.

Secondly, Sengun outscored and out-assisted Looney in these games.

Thirdly, Sengun played 45 minutes less in total in these games than Looney (Silas had him glued to the bench, despite not being in foul trouble, two games of 12 and 14 minutes).

So, per minute, Sengun was a lot more productive than Looney.

Which is not surprising, because they aren't even in the same stratosphere as far as quality goes.

 

So if it's stupid to judge them why did you come up with the "Banchero is Sabonis compared to Smith" nonsense - considering that Paolo is already heavier, stronger and probably more athletic than either.

 

Looney is one of those no stats all stars. He's actually very impactful. Sabonis is sort of the opposite, everything he does well is very obvious to the casual viewer. He does none of the little things.

The Kings will have to make some personnel decisions if they ever want to be good enough defensively to win a championship.

Trying to replicate this current iteration of the Kings would be quite foolish, especially when we don't have the personnel for it. Unless, we're assuming we draft Scoot or something.

 

I just watched Sabonis get R E K T on the defensive glass today until I turned the game off. Kings looked like they didn't know what a rebound was in the late 3rd.

 

You are significantly misunderstanding or underrating Looneys role on GSW

 

Why don't you start practicing what you preach instead of acting like the current ROY won't get any better. Kid is much better than Jabari and actually wanted to be a Rocket ...

 

Here we go.

 

Because the idea is to imagine rookies as more actualized versions of themselves. Like Jabari. Is he going to suddenly develop an amazing dribble drive game? No. Just like Paolo probably won't be a good shooter. Will Jabari turn into an elite shooter and elite defender? Good chance, yeah. Rookies are drafted based on what they project to be. Do you really expect Paolo to be more than a jumbo-kinda-Harden with amazing vision and craftiness but terrible defense and passable-at-best shooting? Or is Paolo the only one that can improve on his weaknesses?

 

So I should assume Paolo will become a great shooter even though he doesn't project as one and instead assume Jabari will not be one even though he projects as one? My point is that the playoffs are about shooters and defenders. Not dribble-iso-Luka types. The only one that's ever had sustained success is Lebron and that's because he's an amazing two way player. Harden, Luka, Trae, Jokic and Sabonis (and Alpie) are in the Banchero mold. All offense, no defense run everything through them type of players. Only Jokic is left.

I'm generalizing Paolo's archetype as something that just doesn't work when the games matter. He'll be a great regular season player and MVP candidate probably. They always are.

 

Well, I heard that in the air and on the ground, they're always in control. Also, that when you say the Oilers, you're talking Super Bowl. Hope this helps.

 

Its pretty funny because on the other hand you have guys here who think shooting wasnt a problem for this team and going a little further when compared to our bigs Banchero had a lower drating.

"arrghh drating is a team stat" ---- ok.

 

Why would I imagine them as idealized versions instead of the actual versions?

It became pretty clear that the idealized version of Jabari Smith - the guy worthy of #1 overall that we seem to have stolen from orlando - wasn't even close to what we got.

He's ok, fixed his underneath scoring issues, but his release was pretty slow, his shooting was poor, and he looked like an average at best athlete. This is not the type of guy that #1 picks are idealized to be, and he wasn't. Even on defense, he was just OK, i got more "solid team defender" vibes than "future all defense/DPOY" candidate vibes, mostly because he just doesn't seem to have that explosion.

That's why he was arguably a top 10 rookie at best. Sure, he an improve, but, with a theoretical #1 guy, you'd like to see a higher floor to start from.

Paolo meanhwile was as advertised, a big 250 lb guy who can dribble, pass, score like a guard.

Those are way harder to find than a 3 &D player who currently lacks the 3. That's why he won ROY.

Again, what this has to do with Sabonis is utterly beyond me.