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Can anyone put the "YAO got tackled" clip to Youtube?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by flyant, Mar 5, 2007.

  1. rocketman1979

    rocketman1979 Contributing Member

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    I just emailed the league office. Below is a copy of the message I sent. :D

    Hello,

    I watch NBA TV all the time and subscribe to NBA League Pass to watch my favorite team the Houston Rockets. There was a play during yesterday's game vs the Cavs that got me really upset. Zydrunas Ilgauskas tackles Yao Ming near the end of a close game and no foul is called. To add insult to injury Zydrunas Ilgauskas is creditted with a steal. I triple dog dare you to have Ronny Nunn explain to me and millions of upset Rocket fans how that play by Zydrunas Ilgauskas is not a foul.

    Thanks,

    Johnny
     
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  2. wreck

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    I know big Z wouldnt try to hurt Yao on purpose but damn that was a terrible play.
     
  3. zong

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    Big Z is a dirty player, he knew Yao's leg was not 100%, then he knocked him down. Anyone said this was a legal play, just go ahead paly with a srong man with this technicque, and see if your teeth will be there.
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    Wow, that wasn't a foul?
     
  5. happyricky

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    I know some fans just like watching basketball without knowing the rules. That's fine, but to come here claiming something you don't know is another story. Evaluate your basketball IQ first before posting here next time. ;)
     
  6. ysong00

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    Whats wrong with you? Where do you get off calling Z a dirty player?? Trust me, i love Yao, and I was very worried, but in no way was that worried. You can tell that after stripping the ball, big Z tried to roll out of the way, but obviously that wasn't going to happen.

    But it is definitely a foul. For those you you who think it isn't, then it would be legal to jump in front of people everytime to try to steal to ball. however, it was not a dirty play, as it was not his intention to hurt yao
     
  7. chiorsung

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    You do not know what is loose ball foul, do you??? Like you are running a cut and do not have the ball in hand. The opponent undercut (or like you said, accidentally fell into your way) causing you to fall over him. You think that is fine??? I do not understand why people are always putting ignorant and stubborn together. Now I do!!!

    From the video, it clearly shows that big Z had tackled down yao before(or the same time) he stripped off the ball.
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    You are a insert insult here, that was a loose ball foul....you can not reach ACROSS someone's body to get the ball and then body block them, it is a foul.....has always been a foul and will continue to be a foul.

    Get a clue !!


    I have refereed basketball for over 15 years....that IS a foul at every single level.

    DD
     
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  9. Sishir Chang

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    I'm not a mind reader and I suspect neither you nor any other posters are. That is why I said it is implying. It is a low implication though that questions Ilgauskus' professionalism and also drags a tragic family event into this debate with no basis than angry speculation.
    That I find questionable. On the video Ilgauskus is clearly diving after the ball and his looking at all the way. The only time he takes his eyes off of the ball is when he turns as Yao legs are hitting him. There's no doubt its a hard foul but I wouldn't call it intentionally trying to take Yao's legs out.
    I agree the refs absolutely should've called a foul.
     
  10. Wangdoodle

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    I don't know if Z is or is not a dirty player.

    But that was a dirty play.

    Z was on Yao's right side. Yao had the ball on his left side. Z intentionally planted his feet and fell in front of Yao. He did this for the sole purpose of trying to draw a charge (when, in fact he absolutely did not have position in front of Yao). And he had to have known that if you throw your body down in front of the legs of a man who is dribbling to the basket, you're gonna trip him up.

    It was a dirty play. And if I was Yao, the next time I played Z, I'd be pulling every single dirty trick I could think of to f**k him up.
     
  11. SuperYanthrax

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    By the way... in response to Bullard and Worrell saying JVG/Yao should have taken a technical, Yao said after the game that if the non-called trip weren't in crunchtime, he would have taken it, but he knew that if he took a technical foul right then it would have cemented the loss.
     
  12. Sishir Chang

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    A lot of posters have taken you to task for good reason.

    The play should've been a foul for a several reasons.

    1. Its impossible to go across a moving player to go after the ball without generating contact which is considered a reach in foul. That's why anyone who is taught to handle a ball is told to dribble the ball from the opposite side of a defender.

    2. Ilgauskus did contact Yao when he fell on Yao's right leg.

    3. In basketball there is the principle of continuance so even if Ilgauskus strips the ball from Yao cleanly he almost immediately comes into contact with Yao. The action of Yao moving forward, Ilgauskus falling down and hitting the ball is all continuous. It is a blocking foul then.

    4. Even if Ilgauskus got the strip clean and that is considered a separate incident from the trip you cannot trip players as a defensive move. There is a specific foul for tripping and if it was allowed then slide tackles would be allowed in basketball along with setting picks by lying down infront of a defender.
     
  13. Sishir Chang

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    I don't think he was trying to take a charge and if that was called that would be even more of a travesty than even the no call as he was falling across Yao's path. On the video it looks like he is going for the ball all the way and not trying to take a charge.
     
  14. Jd1

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    I don't know if u guys noticed,the ref was standing right there and witnessed the whole incident...
     
  15. chenglug

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    very good argument. you should send this to david **** stern
     
  16. hotballa

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    Agree with everything you just said.

    BTW this rofflesaurus character is supremely negative on the Rox. Just check all his past posts. We can't beat anyone, barkley is God, etc. :rolleyes:
     
  17. larocketer

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    That is a foul.
     
  18. Sishir Chang

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    I would but knowing Stern's no tolerence policy about beyatchin about the refs I might find myself getting fined. ;)
     
  19. J DIDDY

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    its possible, that such a tragic event would cause a person to lash out in a way they normally wouldnt. Lets just say Big Z aint Hakeem when it comes to on court behavior. regardless the foul should have been called.

    That I find questionable. On the video Ilgauskus is clearly diving after the ball and his looking at all the way. The only time he takes his eyes off of the ball is when he turns as Yao legs are hitting him. There's no doubt its a hard foul but I wouldn't call it intentionally trying to take Yao's legs out.


    We'll just agree to disagree.
     
  20. umberto

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    If that's not a foul, the whole concept of basketball defense will have to change and you will see a lot of "diving steals" from small guards. May be Alston can perfect that technique and top the NBA in that category. :D
     

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