A deal for Randolph would have to be something like: Tmac (expiring)+Dorsey/JT for Randolph+Maggette(fat contract) I've discussed with severall gs fans and they all seem to think that it would be a nice deal because they absolutely hate magette. I'd hate to take him aswell as his contract, but you don't often get the chance to land a 20year old 7footer with such talent..
with all due respect for you to base your comments off of the summer league (where he led the league with 27 ppg and over 13 rpg by the way) is borderline absurd. And I don't look at stat sheets, because I LIVE IN THE BAY AREA and have watched every single game the guy has played since he was drafted out of LSU less than 2 years ago. And your other assertion about him needing the ball is beyond absurd, which is why basing your knowledge off of a couple of summer league games, where he is playing with 80% scrubs who will never play in the NBA, and thus is encouraged by the coaching staff to work on his game and be aggressive/selfish, shows you why your conclusions are downright faulty. HE WAS ASKED TO HANDLE THE BALL DURING SUMMER LEAGUE BY KEITH SMART. HE WAS ASKED TO BE AGGRESSIVE DURING THOSE PRACTICE GAMES. The reason this guy is deemed to have so much talent is precisely due to his ability to affect the game in pretty much all aspects, regardless of whether or not he gets any plays run for him, cause I guarantee you that they run maybe 1 play for him each game at the very most at GSW. His points largely come through a variety of athletic hustle plays whether it is hitting the offensive glass or playing great defense. Don't believe me? Go watch his highlights. I don't even know why I bother to refute such false arguments repeatedly, when people pull out assertions out of thin air based on SUMMER LEAGUE games and then make conclusive arguments in terms of his temperament, bball IQ, not being a team player etc....my god people, if you don't know much about something, it would behoove you to not make flimsy assertions about the subject at hand.
I wonder how much of that is on him, and how much of it is just him feeling like the organization just doesn't have it together. I could understand the frustration with all that losing....but some guys respond by packing it in while others dig in. Maggette has packed it in......one would think that he might respond differently on a team like the Rockets....winning and hustle are infectious. DD
I like Randolph, would be nice to get him without giving up much. Chase is young and has a lot of potential, we should hold onto him for a couple more years, if not more. Landry probably won't make the all star team in his career. He seems like a great guy and such a hard worker, would hate to see him go. That said, I still think Randolph is worth the risk. Trade Scola or Shane instead. Watched many games of Randolph and he's definitely no Eddie Griffin v2.0. He's legit and as far as I know he's not a troubling kid off the court either. Correct me if I'm wrong. Maggette is cancer.
Nice to imagine but again, potential doesn't always pay off and Landry gts better every year. Would it honestly shock you if he developed a 3 point game or got better defensively? Added a reliable mid range after season 1. Added a post game after season 2. Gone from 8 and 5 to 17 and 6 in only 2 seasons, in only 27 mpg. 57% over the last two seasons, even though he takes a good amount of jumpers. Gone from a 66% ft shooter to an 87% ft shooter. And he gets to the line 5 times a night. He is s banger. Cheap contract. And you wanna trade this guy? Yeah he is older but again, how do you guage his ceiling when he has shown rapid improvement in 2 years?
Icehouse, please understand that I do not want to trade Carl Landry. That would be the most regrettable mistake! I was merely speculating on what improvements Landry will make to his arsenal of skills.
Gotcha. My bad. It's just sometimes we get all hype over some other teams potential stud without realizing what we have on our own team. It's rare to see a player making the strides that Carl is making. You can look at him and say he can be everything you need from a PF playing next to Yao, at least offensively.
With the way things are being run in GS, would not surprise me to see a trade like this Taylor, Cook and Anderson for Randolph and Claxton. I would not mind even if its Landry in place of Anderson. Landry is a very good player, but he will always be limited due to his size and inability to handle the ball. Not to add to the fact that he is 26 as others have stated, to put that into perspective, he is 1 year older than Bosh and Villanueva, 2 year older than Jefferson, Smith, Noah and Aldridge, 3 years older than Horford, 4 years older than Bynum, 5 years older than Lopez, Oden and Love, 6 years younger than Randolph.
Yes, There's a reason why GS is trying to get rid of these guys. They are athletic talented, immatured (means low BBIQ and not work hard). It translates to the word LOSER. This rockets is so special that most of them are winners (hard worker, high BBIQ and focus on BB). Morey is genies, money ball basically find the winners' charactors which were a talent largely ignored before. If Yao and TMac keep health, they will be closed to jordon's bulls 72 win.
Do you think Randolph will get to a point where he could drop an efficient 20 a night, shooting 50% and 85% from the line? Landry is actually above 55% but let's assume his % drops with more shots. Do you think Landry is done improving?
That means you don't have a clue regarding what you are speaking so boldly about, and I would venture to guess that you don't know a whole hell of a lot about the GSW either, but then again who cares about basing their bombastic statements on mundane things called facts?
Please look up Anthony Randolph stats month to month in his rookie season, and tell me how someone who is overrated and doesn't improve can progress from avg'ing 3 ppg and 4bbg to 15 and 10 by the end of the season (again month per month stat progression). How can a guy like that put up 25, 15, 5, 2 against the Spurs and Tim Duncan, and over 20 and 10 against the Lakers at the end of the season. A guy who was 19 at the time mind you, and who at 20 has already improved his FT% to 81% and gets there 4.3 times a game in 20 minutes of time mind you, while cutting down his TO margin and putting up 11 and 7 despite getting ridiculously inconsistent playing time. You are seriously trying to sell us the argument that Landry can develop a 3 point shot and be a premier defender at his size down low. Can you teach 6'11 (and still growing, Randolph grew one inch last summer and will probably end up a legit 7 footer) with a monstrous wing span (>>7'6) and great hops. A guy who gets 1.2 Blocks per game in 20 minutes and will be a top shot blocker in short order. A guy who handles like a guard and runs the floor like one as well. I love Landry, but he is limited in many areas of his game based upon his physical tools. Landry is not done improving but neither is randolph who despite getting jerked around is finding ways to show the NBA his immense talents. At 26 Randolph will be the much better player compared to Landry (if he gets the hell out of GSW that is) and it won't be close either, I'm sorry to say.
much better than current Landry? Landry : PER=24.30 and he is the best 4th quarter player in the league... try beat that.
I've seen Randolph play up close, live twice. I've seen a dozen of his other games on television. Loosen your panties, Nancy. You're too cranky.
first off Landry is not the best 4th quarter player in the league, he is currently top 5 and they have only played 24 games so far, which would be akin to me taking the last 24 games of last year and calculating Randolph's per from that which would also be over 20 (at the age 19 mind you as a rookie). So compare apples to apples, and yes Randolph at the age of 26 will be a much better player than Landry.
