And what's the impact of that answer on how we should be building this team. (first, please don't respond by saying it's all about having elite players. That's a given. This is about offensive philosophy and its impact on how you should build a team). Adelman's system is predicated on high post passing to back door cutters or hand off pnr to high side ball handlers. That opens up jumpers for the ball handler, drives to the paint or kick out to the pick man, usually a big that can shoot (brad miller or patpat). Or you have the Kevin martin curl around scola in the low post, being fed by a Battier from the top, en route to the basket. When games get tight in the fourth quarter, it seems that human nature is to play more slowly and deliberately. Defenses are performing at optimum awareness, so you're less likely to catch someone napping for backdoor cuts. Timing and cuts are interrupted and thwarted by the additional contact that is allowed during Q4. Adelman's system tends to invite jump shots to close games. The Sacto Kings were a rare combination of parts that seemed to work well together. We have not seen another team that executes a motion type offense to push for a conf title. Personally, I think the system is entertaining, but not ideal for winning at the highest level. So what does work? - Basic PnR - Low Post big, surrounded by shooters - Elite wing player creating his own shot on the wing or in the high post - PG penetrate and kick This has been true for decades now. If you are able to execute any of these offenses with elite or All star caliber players, you can contend for a top 4 spot in either conference. Your status as a contender then just depends on the quality of your roster and whether you have multiple good/great player(s). If this is true, we should be builiding around these players: AB, TWill, Scola, Ish Smith. We need to hope that they become All stars and can exeute those plays at a high level. Scola only qualifies by default. (I'm soooo tired of AB's ass that I cannot believe I just included him on the list). The rest of our players are good role players that cannot execute these basic simple plays at elite/playoff levels: Lowry, Martin, Battier, Buddinger, Hayes, Miller, PatPat, Hill. (Damn, all my threads and posts this year have been unintentionally depressing)
Yes it can. He had a healthy team in Kings and Stern f0cked them and grabbed away their Finals appearence and rings although He hadn't a healthy Rockets squad for an all season long when he had a pretty healthy lineup, Rockets played their best basketball of the decade in January 08 and in the beginning of the streak. Yao was named NBA player of the month, Scola complemented him pretty well.... we played good defense, excellent offense, but then, Chicago game, Yao press-conference and... But we were using his system just a little bit here and there that time. Anyway, we played championship caliber basketball in that stretch And it was awfully hard to know that it wasn't as long as we expect because of Yao SEI
They almost won that series against LA then Kobe cheated by elbowing Bibby and Bibby got called for a blocking foul.
The main reason for having a system is that ideally you'd generate enough points throughout the game so that you won't be in a position where the offense breaks down and you have to score buckets in a broken field during the fourth quarter. Having a clutch guy who can create and take the tough jumper with the clock winding down and a defender in his face makes for great drama, however at the end of the day that's just two points. If the system was clicking the whole game you shouldn't need to take such tough shots.
not really about the system imo..this team just has no talent and we can have phil jackson + red auerbach and we'd never make the playoffs. freckin' erik "geekette" spoelstra is winning in miami and I can probably coach better than he does give michael jordan a bunch of high school coaches and he'll win you a championship coaching importance is overrated..
The Princeton absolutely works in the NBA. The problem is the defense. The offense is unbelievably effective.
His Kings were a better team than the Lakers even though they had arguably the better talent w/ Shaq and Kobe. Tim Donaghy has admitted that Game 6 was rigged--and anyone who watched Game 6, which would have sent them to the finals, could see that it was terribly, terribly officiated in favor of the Lakers. Adelman's system can win it. His Portland team made it to the finals too--completely different set of players, and were just beaten by better talent in the Bulls. What's impressive about Adelman's record is his ability to get small market teams like Sacramento and Portland to compete w/ big market teams. I have confidence in Adelman's system. Where I do have questions sometimes is his in-game substitutions and drawn-up plays.
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His system can definitely win if he has the personnel for it. He needs the following for it to work though: - A high BBQ IQ big at the high post who not only can start the offense from there, but end it as well. - A smart PG with a decent outside shot who initiate the start of the offense. - Reasonably smart wingmen who can not only hit the outside shot, but constantly move around attacking defensive holes when they appear to create plays. As it is, our team currently does not have the right players needed to run his offense. We see flashes of it every now and then on the designed plays, but it is supposed to be a natural constant free wheeling offense that reads and reacts to what the defense offers. - Yao could have fulfilled a Vlad Divac or young Miller role if JVG didn't completely brainwash him into a low post player, possibly ruining his career due to that. Miller is too old and injured. Jeffries is brain dead stupid on the offensive end of the court. Hill is just brain dead stupid, full stop. Hayes lacks any sort of consistent mid ranged game. Scola doesn't seem to be able to make smart decisions on the spot. Patterson is the best here, but lacks the experience thus far. - T-Mac could have definitely played the dual role of slasher, high post point forward, and occasional shooter. This would have definitely helped alleviate some of the physical stress if he was willing or the rest of the team was able to. Instead, we played a strictly low post high post iso type offense between him and Yao. - Aaron Brooks has show flashes of being able to make the right pass, but not consistently enough for him to be one of the focal points in RA's system. Lowry and Ish definitely have the brains, but lack the outside shot to keep the D honest. - Slashing wings are something that we have in Lee, T-Will, and Budinger. Battier is too old and camps out at the corner or in the post all day. Lee has be great and much better than Ariza. T-Will seems to have beef with RA. Budinger could fulfill this role if he decides to ever grow a pair as well as learn to play D and hit the open shot consistently.
And I guess you know adelmans system like the back of your hand, u must be in that 5% Give me a break.
Scheme's aren't all the important in the NBA. In the NFL schemes are INSTRUMENTAL... In the NBA it is all talent.
If by 'system' you're referring to offense, we're a top 10 team this year. Offense isn't the problem. If you're referring to defense, Adelman's consistently had top 10 teams numerous times and is almost always in the top half. Put another way, if you were to replace Adelman, I doubt you'd see a significant improvement in our team. We're sucking because our superstar will probably never play again and a replacement is extremely hard to come by, not because of Rick's deficiencies.
I'm not sure what you're implying. His post is an accusation at the thread OP for not making up stuff you don't understand. Because most if not all of us are not basketball coaches with enough knowledge to discern the difference between system and players in terms of on-court success. i.e. you don't have to be a physics professor to say that 95% of the world can't understand squat about a physics doctorial thesis. As for Adelman, he has succeeded in multiple places. He brought the Rockets close to a championship team despite his only superstar quiting. That said, I don't think he's at an age where he'll take on a rebuilding project. If we're not reloading, I think he might just mail it in as a coach. Not because he's not capable, but because he doesn't really care anymore.
