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Can Aaron Brooks improve like Rondo?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RyanB, May 23, 2010.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    He also has a very nice step back jimmy.......

    And, this is exactly why I want to keep Cbud, he also will improve.

    DD
     
  2. MiracleShot

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    I think he was referring to the fact that Brooks is the Most Improved Player.
     
  3. herro

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    Brooks and Rondo are so completely dissimilar that it the improvements will be tangible in other facets of the game. Aaron Brooks will never run the break like Rondo, and Rondo will never score the basketball like Aaron Brooks.
     
  4. agentkirb87

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    "All that is required..."

    Yes. I believe my original statement is true. Now, it's agreed that Brooks has a weakness on defense. But it's not because he can guard 2s better than 1s.

    I'm not saying Brooks is a complete package. He has his strengths and weaknesses. But people like to claim that he is really a 2 in a PGs body. He plays like a 2, but he has the tools at PG to be effective there. His ball movement skills aren't as good as Nash's, but he's also no Luther Head. And I would argue that he can bring the ball up the court as well as any PG in the league.

    So yeah... bad defense noted, but that has nothing to do with his ability to play PG.
     
  5. bloop

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    no. unless Brooks can develop into the best player on the best team in the playoffs

    aside from their games being totally dissimilar, Rondo has an intuitive feel for the game, whereas Brooks seems to wade into the paint without a clear idea of how he's going to score or who he's going to pass to. it also makes Rondo a much better defender

    Rondo has a lot of other advantages such as size and teammates who'll finish once they get the ball

    Brooks has plenty of room to develop but not at all like Rondo. once again ppl overvaluing something because it has "Houston" attached to it. this isn't to say Brooks can't develop into a borderline all-star, but he isn't what Rondo is... which is one of the best playmakers at any position in the league.
     
  6. AstroRocket

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    I dunno, but it sure was fun watching those two go head to head back in April.

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  7. jopatmc

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    All I will say is watching Rondo dominate this championship has made me salivate even more for Rubio in Rocket Red.

    And I love Aaron Brooks. But playmaking point guards that can dominate a game like Rondo or Rubio are very rare.
     
  8. Deckard

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    Scola would never accept it.
     
  9. pmac

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    Brooks is already a much better scorer, I just don't think he has the mentality to become a top notch playmaker and certainly not a great defender.
     
  10. Yetti

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    If he was truly adept at setting up the offense he would average a lot more
    assists and would not look for his shot before making a pass. :p
     
  11. Rocket_4_Life

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    The following journalist from Chicago doesn't even have Brooks in the top twenty.

    Ranking Best PG's

    (I'd say he's between 15 & 20 with opportunity for improvement.)
     
  12. daeyeth

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    It agitates the hell out of me how ppl are talking about the defense of one the best PGs in the league over everything else. It's like talking about Kobe's defense and considering all his other skills like, "Oh yeah, those are nice. But anyways, his defense is really great!"

    Take away Rondo defense and he's still one of the best PGs in the league. Defense is a subsidiary. If there's one thing I want Brooks to get from Rondo, it's not gonna be his freakin defense, it'll be his playmaking ability. The thing that, ya know, defines the entire PG position.
     
  13. agentkirb87

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    I think the point is that we aren't losing anything by playing Brooks at PG rather than SG. All that he has to do really is run the motion offense (which he can do... he's no Chris Paul but he can run Adelman's offense), and bring the ball up the court.
     
  14. smoothie

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    rondo has improved on his weakness (scoring), and improved on a strength (passing).

    brooks has improved on a strength (scoring), but has yet to improve on a weakness (defense, passing). when he improves on a weakness he will be seen as an elite PG. given the strides that he's made in the last 2 seasons, i don't think it's too much to ask for him to take his game to yet another level next season.
     
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    With the way this team has performed with Brooks over the past 2 seasons, why has it become somewhat popular to bash Brooks? Can someone explain and provide general examples of in-game situations where Brooks has bad passing skills?

    If you're playing the point guard spot, you're a point guard.
    Whether or not you fit some sort of nebulous mold with some sort of Clutchfans-determined skill set is another story.

    The question here was "can Aaron Brooks improve like Rondo," which is different than "can Aaron Brooks become like Rondo". Sure he can. He will become more comfortable and confident on the floor, just like Rondo did, and that should lead to better decision making. His shooting is already stellar, and his finishing skills can be improved with hard work and experience. To ask him to be the defensive player that Rondo is is silly.
     
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    Brooks is a point guard, he just isn't a playmaking point guard. he has a score first mentality, which is understandable and acceptable because he is damn good and efficient at it.
     
  17. leebigez

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    If rondo had to play with shane,trevor,scola,and hayes for half the season, the rox wouldnt win 30 games. Brooks in boston would probably yield close to the same results.

    Rondo is a good defender, but it helps having perkins in the paint and garnett with his unlimted range and recovery.Thats what I'm been saying for years and years that if you have a low footed plodder like yao, the 4 man needs to be opposite and have the ability to cover alot of ground. Haying scola ,hayes,and landry as 4's opposite yao really exposes the rox to pick and roll.

    Deckard, if he doesnt accept it, try another team. andre miller got 2 yrs real money and a 3 rd partial and he was a better player at the time and close to the same age. I actually think scola is going to take his 1 yr tender and see whats going on after that.
     
  18. luisantonio1014

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    If Aaron Brooks isn't a point guard, then Tony Parker isn't either!

    He's definitely a PG, just a scoring PG. I'd take AB over Mo Williams any day! I don't know if he can evolve into the kind of PG Rondo, especially since he's older than Rondo.

    Lowry could grow into the type of PG Rondo is. If he works on his scoring, he could jump into the starting spot.
     
  19. albuster

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    And rack up a mind blowing 42-40 record.
     
  20. Rockets Pride

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    kinda new here. Can yall name the teams that won rings with scoring point guards?

    Spurs - Parker..

    ...

    Lakers - Magic Johnson ?

    Detroit - Billups ? does he count?
     

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