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Can 3 ball dominant players co-exist on the same team?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Jul 10, 2017.

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Can Harden, CP3, and Melo work well together?

Poll closed Jul 24, 2017.
  1. Yes - they will all sacrifice for the good of the team

    157 vote(s)
    79.7%
  2. No - it will eventually become a chemistry problem

    18 vote(s)
    9.1%
  3. Mixed - Will work some, but won't move the team closer to a championship

    22 vote(s)
    11.2%
  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    He is not a PF - he doesn't rebound like one, he is more of a combo forward......Porzingas is more of a PF.

    And, IIRC, Melo bristiled at being asked to play PF, because of the defensive commitment required.

    Hopefully Melo knows that -...which is 100% the key, if he is ok with deferring then we might have something, if not...we have Dwight 2.0.

    DD
     
  2. Daddy Long Legs

    Daddy Long Legs H- Town Harden

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    I.D.I.O.T.
     
  3. YOLO

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    that's great. whatever you believe he was or is isn't relevant to what his role would be here because it's completely different. funny though if he is as bad as what you just posted, why is it that the top players in the world obviously have some sort of interest in playing with him.
     
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  4. omgTHEpotential

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    Agreed. That's really crucial.
     
  5. YOLO

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    ahh the label of positions in the time of a position less league. nothing to see here, next....
     
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  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    This is somewhat true YOLO - yet not completely. Melo is a 6'8" guy with limited lateral quickness, and not all that strong in the paint, no one is doubting his offense, he can shoot the heck out of the ball - but will he be comfortable in that role here, with less touches - a shooting role player.

    But if he is asked to guard a 6'10" PF he is going to struggle there.

    That is what we are hoping for, that he comes in plays the role of veteran getting the last ounce of his talent out of him, and can score 17-19ppg on 50% shooting - if we can get that, then I am down, but we have to get rid of Ryan Anderson as part of the deal.

    Melo has been a cancer - everywhere - even George Karl called him out for it - are we really sure he will come to Houston and be happy as the 3rd fiddle?

    Maybe enough time has passed and he is ready to do that, we shall see.

    DD
     
  7. omgTHEpotential

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    There's a reason Melo was a great player ONLY with Team USA. That team never loses. I think he has never learned how to handle losses. Instead of being a positive influence on his team, he sabotages them. Here's hoping Houston goes 82-0 next season.
     
  8. tinman

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    I figure with all that losing he has figured out he needs to go on a team with better players than him.
     
  9. YOLO

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    i actually don't think so. melo is not some guy a 6'10 pf is going to bully. much the same reason why harden is better at guarding guys down low bc neither guy is easy to move.
     
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    Let me ask you this. How many 6'10" PF's are left in the league that posess the offensive skillset/get enough looks in the post that would cause Melo to struggle?

    BG, AD, LMA are all I can think of off the top of my head.

    Love has the size and post moves but he doesn't get nearly the looks inside. He's a glorified Ryan Anderson.

    Millsap has the skills but he's 6'8" and I can't see him dominating Melo to the point he struggles.

    Porzingis I feel is a Center but even if he played PF he would be guarded by Capela.

    I think you have to realize that the game has changed. When I think of a powerforward I also think of traditional dominant 6'10" + guys with legit post moves that can rebound and put up 20/10 block or alter shots and dominate the paint. Guys like Webber, KG, Duncan, Sheed, Elton Brand, J. O'neal, Amare, Dirk, Zbo, Gasol. Those days are long gone.

    The majority of all PF's today are either one-dimensional, older, younger and undersized without true post moves or play the stretch 4. Melo would be fine at PF.
     
  11. Rocket River

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    Honestly - This is Melo's last look at his legacy.
    He might be able to get to the Cavs . . . . .But I dunno
    This could very much be SNOTTIE QUITTEN 2.0
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    He can at least be Barkley . . .. or David Robinson
    I think the ring is what he wants. . . all his friends have them . . .

    That said . . .His defense at the 4 will be worse than Anderson's?
    I am not sure about that

    We know he has significantly more offense

    Rocket River
     
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  12. tc0330

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    Who tf knows?
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Yeah, that is a good post RR.

    DD
     
  14. tycoonchip

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    Hard to say really. If the three continue to play ball dominant basketball then no way. If they learn to play cohesive basketball, then the sky is the limit. Everything depends on how well everyone buys into their new roles. I am Hoping that Melo and Paul are both at the point in their careers that they'll pretty much give their left Nut to win a Ring.
     
  15. Gorilladunks

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    what? the defensive commitment at the 3 is way more demanding for him. Thats where he has been bad defensively in NY. He rebounds better than anderson so that doesnt matter. Hes exactly the 4 you want in morey ball. He would be the PF here. Ariza is the starting 3 already and tucker is on the bench. He has to play the 4 here and he knows it.

    you are apparently still stuck in 1999 you 99er lol.
     
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    LOLOLOLOL BARNES BETTER THAN TUCKER?? Welp found another poster I can ignore all opinions from. My god this site this past month

    First off why would you match green and gordon. Why are you matching iggy and ariza. Your matchups make no sense. you are mixing starters and bench players.

    Please just go follow sweet lou and go be a clippers fan. jesus

    Why didnt you make a complete list so far

    Curry = CP3 (Curry might be able to do stuff on cp3 , but he cant guard him)
    Klay < Harden (This isnt even debatable)
    Durant > Ariza ( obvious, just asking ariza to hold him down the best he can)
    Green = Melo (Green could beat melo down low, but he isnt going to be that great at defending him)
    Pachullia < Capela (capela lob city)

    Livingston < Gordon (Gordon can actually shoot, livingston cant)
    Iggy = Tucker (toss up .They have the same skillset nearly exactly. Iggy is just a name)
    McCaw > Isaiah Taylor (McCaw is a nice young player)
    Swaggy P = Troy Williams (swaggy p is just a spot shooter that does nothing else)
    West >barely Onuaku/Zhou Qi (west is washed up)
    Looney < Nene (Nene is starting calibur . Looney is still a project)

    Thats if we dont get anyone else and trade for melo with a 3rd team with anderson and picks. Maybe you get a onuaku thrown in. Dont know. Then you go look at the rest of the remaining market and find you a bench big or guard if you dont believe in taylor being able to handle 5-10 minutes every once in awhile.

    Golden State is deep, but you have to remember we are starting to build the team. Have to build the starting lineup before adding some depth. We are way closer to them if we trade for melo.
     
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    LMAO WHAT IS THIS
     
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    I agree with what you wrote for the most part.

    I do think just from a wear and tear perspective he's going to need to see some time guarding guys who closer to 3s than 4s.

    Since Ariza would have an even smaller offensive burden I think he could see some time guarding 4's as well. Tucker guarding 4's as well with melo in the game.

    That said, it would be nice if joe Chee or Oliver developed quickly and could see some time at the 4 just in case we ever needed a bigger body but still could spread the floor.
     
  19. KingCheetah

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    If Melo comes to the Rockets we will get the Olympic version - Harden and Paul are TBD, but I'm confident CP will work to fit in the system.
     
  20. YOLO

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    i guess you missed the part of including harden
     

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