Cam Whitmore traded to Wizards for 2 2nd round picks

It took getting traded for 2nd rounders for him to realize that. Sad. Had he realized it earlier, he’d still wear Rox uniform. Oh wellz.

 

You're being generous. He's always wrong. Cam will be out of the league in a few years. He's Harold Minor

 

FOR ****S SAKE - THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T GIVE UP on 20 year olds.

We just gave up his talent at 20 as an immature talented player..........for NOTHING.....

Players mature.....they almost ALWAYS mature......

"I’m not gonna lie I’m really trying to win some games!" Whitmore said. "I want to turn this whole organization around into a positive organization where fans will want to come to the games and fans will want to watch the Wizards play basketball but first we gotta win."

We gave away star talent at 20 years old.......and Ime honestly was getting through to him - and we had him under control for 3 more years. Which is perfect as KD transitions out he would have been the primary scorer....

GOD ****ING DAMNIT !

Now maybe folks can see EXACTLY what I was saying instead of being so impatient and ready to move on before they mature......just pure poor management.

DD

 

I love this post DD (especially the GFD!, my favorite explicative far and away), so what I'm about to ask is in all seriousness because I'm really curious. Who out of KD, FVV, Amen, Jabari, Tari, Reed, or Finney-Smith would you want to replace with Cam? Or would it be 5 minutes from each of those guys? I liked Cam too, but I'm glad he's going to get playing time. I would probably have move Tari for Cam because I think the ceiling is much higher but I'm curious what you would do.

 

Would have never signed DFS - and would have played Cam every night and even more on the nights KD and Tari rest.

I believe you can build for the future, and win now at the same time....and when the old guard moves on you can keep on winning.

DD

 

Is there any possibility that Cam would never have "matured" while a Rocket? That he needed the trade to wake up to the need to quick carrying the chip on his shoulder for being drafted as late as he was (what I believe was behind his surleyness (if that's a word))? Would you have traded Ime instead of Cam? Do you get what I'm asking? If you had to choose between the two which would it be? I fall solidly on supporting Ime, even if he handled Cam poorly. But I'm curious what you think.

 

Of course, but this is why the NBA let's teams have 4-5 years of them under control to find out.

When you are drafting 19 year olds, you need to see 4 years minimum when they show talent like he has....before you move on......IMHO, Cam has that "It" factor that you rarely see.....

Ime is a good coach, but in order for him to be a GREAT coach he needs to deal with difficult head strong players, and get them to come around, if you read the article it is abundantly clear Cam was coming around, which makes this even worse.

So, to me, Ime is still developing as a coach as well.

I would have kept them both....and you NEVER trade top talent until all avenues are exhausted.

Love Stone as a contract guy, but I think he let's others push him into decisions he shouldn't make....IMO.

DD

 

Cam fell to 20 for a reason.
Cam could not fetch a first round pick for a reason.
Stone and the Rockets did Cam a favor by trading him to his hometown team where he has a shot to get a lucrative second contract. That opportunity does not exist with this Rockets team.

 

Yeah, but if you don't trust the coach, you'd fire him.

It's the easiest option to get rid of coaches, don't worry about that.

Getting rid of a malcontent compared to firing a coach is not that easy.

 

Tell me you didn't watch every game of the rebuild without telling me you didn't watch every game of the rebuild.




If you saw no change in Jalen, that's because you didn't watch enough of the early years. Lightyears of change happened. Sorry the stats back you up because the court told a different story. This trade was about the egg Jalen laid. We beat the Warriors and he's still on the team.

 

Thank you for this answer. Truly. It’s a bit of a tragedy that both are developing. I think this is right on….

 

I've spent the past two years arguing about Jalen with people who keep thinking he's improved even while I see the same player over and over. I won't bother repeating the points I've made over and over. I'll just say this. Jalen was just traded as a pure salary filler. Possibly even as a negative contract. Stone said he offered Phoenix Jalen and Cam and none of the other Rockets young player. I think it's pretty clear that whatever improvement Jalen's fans think he made, the Rockets brass don't agree.

 

I'm not a Jalen purist. Can't be with my Rockets holding center court for 30+ years, but seriously... you're avoiding what I said. Did you watch all the games, start to finish (or at least most of the games) while Silas was here? That's really important when it comes to watching Jalen specifically, but Alperen as well. They both improved. Smarter players, better defense, better offense, better team oriented focus. That matters, maybe not enough, maybe not enough for you, but that dude definitely improved the 1,000s of eye tests on becoming a more legit NBA player while Ime was here. If you saw him early and I mean a lot of him early because he's a warrior on playing every game, if you did and don't see a difference, you're going basketball blind. End of story. Unless you're purposely being obtuse, if so, please continue as I bow out.

 

Someone here would never understand what opportunity cost means

 

If it was idle in year 4, then I would agree.

Don't worry though, Cam has a great opportunity in Washington - ....good for him.

DD

 

not blind not obtuise

by his 4th year, still wildly inconsistent, still a front runner, worst BPM and Net Rating among starters

you watched the playoffs right?

 

If Jalen never improved he wouldnt have gotten any PT under Ime. Ime doesnt care where you are drafted if you are not good you will not play (see Reed Sheppard).

The only players making money on the Rockets are Sengun, Jalen, FVV and DB. The other players are still on rookie deals they wont serve as salary filler. If KD is coming then DB+Jalen is the only thing that works since we need a pg (FVV) and no way Sengun is getting traded.

 

Plenty of players made a name for themselves with elite offense and zero defense. KD is one of those. Harden was another.

 

KD zero defense? Tell me you don’t watch basketball without telling me