Cam Whitmore traded to Wizards for 2 2nd round picks

I guess lets if the Wizards or someone else are able to salvage Cam's career

 

This. It's the only way it makes sense.

 

Cam may end up being a stud. he also may end up being the next Terrence Williams.

he was clearly acting up enough to turn off the rockets and a bunch of other NBA teams.

we are going for a title this year and we clearly wanted to allocate minutes to Shepherd. I have the best hopes for the young man, but this is probably best for all parties.

 

You lay down rules, you adhere to them, and if he is a whiny guy, you suspend him......but you have to be consistent.

Ime had different rules for different players, like Jalen who took nearly 20% of the shots, yet was a worse shooter than Cam - it was probably very frustrating to watch Jalen screw up every other game and not get off the bench.

I know we are going to be good, I just don't like throwing away talent for nothing which is what this team did.

Also, I am worried that Ime isn't a coach that can handle strong willed players - like the championship coaches do.......it looks like Ime loves role players, and playing hard (clap clap) over actual talent.

And, I think Cam is going to be special, everything about him screams future all star, when he played extended minutes he thrived, way more than Jalen....and again, we had him for 3 more years.....what happens if a 37 year old gets injured, who can create an open GOOD shot late in the shot clock on this team, no one.....we are literally playing with fire.....and picking up end of bench role players.

A lot of coaches fall short because they can't reach players better than they ever were -they look for themselves in players and OVER value that - Tate for example - than letting hard headed more talented players find their way.

This is where I see IMe right now a good, but not great coach.

DD

 

How do u know that Cam hadn’t used up all his chances with the team? How do u know that there weren’t expectations set behind the scenes and whether or not Cam adhered to them? Your entire perspective is just based on an assumption or lack there of. Pretty sure the Rockets learned from the KPJ saga and i bet they were very clear with Cam. If we saw displays of being a bad teammate during a real game, you want to bet it wasnt worse behind the scenes? Or that Cam got no communication from the team about what was expected of him? Come on.

 

Used up all his chances? What does that mean when you are talking about a 20 year old?

This isn't KPJ, he wasn't close to anything like that.....this is about leadership and being able to coach talented head strong players.

Like a Kobe Bryant or an Allen Iverson etc.....you don't just walk away from talent because a 20 year old is cocky, that is WEAK ASSED leadership.

And yes Cam was frustrated, and HE HAD A RIGHT TO BE as he had to watch Jalen Green toss brick after brick and still play......that is bullshit coaching, and shows a lack of integrity on Ime's part, either you coach everyone by the same rules ala Pop or not.

And of course there are times you cut your losses, but with 3 years left and him just turning 21, this was not it....he will continue to mature.....and we just gave him away.

Why not play him this year, see how he does, raise his value and see????? We literally threw him away.

Look if I am wrong - fine...maybe he ends up sucking, but I don't think so, I see him as much more than that.....if he blows up......we literally gave him away for nothing.

Anyway, this is gumming up the board.....will sit back and wait, but I am pissed .......that we gave away talent.

DD

 

Essentially, all of his posts are designed to prove his own point. if the squeeze was worth the juice with Whitmore, we would probably put up with the ********.

look at how gracefully Jalen Green has left town. And then look at Cam Whitmore.

Green played poor for parts of the year, knew he was essentially on the trade block and still carried himself the right way. Contrast that to Whitmore.

he may end up being fine and he may end up being Terrence Williams. Nobody knows. The only thing that we know is, we’re going for a championship this year and it was going to be Reed versus Whitmore for those minutes.

 

The irony is DD tried to act all magnanimous and "give me credit" for coming around on Jalen after his playoff performance, whilst he STILL supports KPJ and Whitmore despite neither player EVER coming close to Jalen and Jalen's a ****ing bust. Just so full of **** all the time, it's like watching the devolution of man how much bullshit spews from him.

 

Man, you can't be serious, Jalen was never worth the number 2 pick......should have taken Mobley......as many of us said.

Jalen is ok as a player, just not a leader and backs down from challenges, Cam is a killer......you won't have that problem...I would take Cam over Jalen 100 out of 100 times.

But sure...whatever, you don't like people who talk basketball on a BBS....must be tough.

DD

 

yes, let's look at Cam leaving town, why don't you tell us exactly what he has said or done?

Go on......

And lord knows ...there are TONS of arrogant/cocky basketball players, if Jalen was that, he wouldn't have been traded, but he isn't he is a Beta to the core.

Cam is an Alpha -now, he may absolutely FAIL.....but my point that you don't give away players for free - when you are still finding a championship roster, is bad management.

Can't wait to see how Cam dissed the Rockets.....or has said anything......like he left in a huff, or said something negative...as you seem to be intimating there.

So far, he is guilty of wanting to play....WHAT A ****ING JERK.....lol - not!

DD

 

yeah but Jalen was a good teammate. Jalen played hard. Jalen tried to do what the coaches asked. Jalen was never a problem in the locker room. Sure he didn’t fulfill his promise as a #2 pick but he wasn’t a malcontent. Not sure what Jalen has to do with Cam being a malcontent.

 

Please point out one instance of that with Cam....one.......

We know he wanted to play - that isn't a negative.

People are making **** up here now.....how is Cam a malcontent.....post a link, or any information about that .....sourced please.



People owe Cam an Apology.....

DD

 

This comment sums it up

 

It will need to be more than 1, but I expect him to breakout this year, and after reading all of the negativity directed at him, it will be well deserved......



DD

 

There is NO WAY Tilman, Stone or Udoka would ever trade away top talent on a rookie contract for 2 2nds if there weren't major questions marks / issues behind the scenes. They gave it 2 full years, and you could tell that even starting in Summer League that something was way off. I don't wish any I'll will on the man and this really does look like a best case scenario for him. I think he was jaded and not performing at the level Udoka required. More than anything he appeared to be a dark cloud over the locker room. Don't need anything like that when you are serious about winning.

 

Cam's (a) body language and (b) never getting his name called during the playoffs, even when Jalen Green was taking a s**t (six times) in front of the whole world--all this made it clear he was not long for the Rockets, nor would other teams offer much for him.

 

no one is making anything up. I don’t know if Cam was a bad teammate behind the scenes. He pushed past Jalen and Tari during a game because he was frustrated, which upset both players. He loafed on the court a few times during garbage time. He sulked on the sidelines. He made some passive aggressive comments to the media. None of that is KPJ level, but I would bet there’s more we don’t know about. And you are assuming there isn’t. That’s all I’m saying.

My question still stands. What if he was a problem behind the scenes and wasn’t being a good teammate or doing what the coaches asked him to? And that it continued despite clear expectations set by the team? You do realize Cam wanted out right?

 

I want to see highlights not a bunch of crying when I click on this thread

 

Not to mention we were able to literally “steal him in the draft” because it was already rumors of this about him during the draft

 

You can tell, especially with Stone, he believes in 2nd and 3rd chances. For him to get rid of Cam they must have said, this isn't something we can fix. These teams have access to psychologists, therapy, you name it and invest tons of time and money into mental and physical well being of the players. I think he must have really clashed behind the scenes and the whole crew had had enough.