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Cam Whitmore putting in work

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Sep 12, 2023.

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Is he ready with a bigger role and more responsibilities AKA minutes - this early

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  1. yes

    330 vote(s)
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  2. no

    80 vote(s)
    19.5%
  1. roslolian

    roslolian Member

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    I mean if Spurs can pick Wemby and Portland can pick Scoot despite their health issues I don't think Cams health issues should be a concern given we picked him at 20.

    Plus his shot is amazing so hopefully that extends his health and longevity since he doesn't need to drive on every play.
     
  2. roslolian

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    Jalen Green is the one who should be doing this kind of camp during ASB. But maybe that's why JG's shot is broken and Cam isn't.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    MAMBA MENTALITY RIGHT THERE !!!

    DD
     
  4. OnNotice

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    I have high hopes of this kid. I like his work ethic and his passion for the game.
     
  5. kspires999

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    Nowhere in the Draft write ups did it say Whitmore would be a high volume, high percentage 3 point shooter. That has been the biggest pleasant surprise for me.
     
  6. KingCheetah

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    Cam's buttery smooth jump shot was mine -- I still can't believe this dude fell to us.

     
  7. OremLK

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    It was because he was not a great 3P shooter in college--only 34%. But he was recovering from thumb surgery that season, so it may have really affected his shooting touch.
     
  8. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    Cam having a shot has not stopped him from violently attacking the basket so far.
     
  9. daywalker02

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    His shot is pretty silky ....for a 19 year old.
     
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  10. tycoonchip

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    Jalen Green should have been doing this 2 years ago. This is what I mean when I said in a previous post, if you're looking for information about the guy you'll have no choice but to find him in the gym. This is what you call work ethic.
    Not all the speculations like " he might have a trainer with him in Paris". " Just because he didn't post it on his instagram doesn't mean it didn't happen".
    Most of the posts about Jabari this past offseason was of him working out. Why? Because that is all he did. Same with Sengun, same with Eason and all the guys that showed improvement.
    These are now considered adults making millions of dollars. They are being paid millions to play "a game" they so call love. It shouldn't take a fan base or mean tweets to light a fire or a contract year.
    The past offseason was the first time anyone saw Jalen working on his game during the offseason. That's 1 or 2 seasons behind what this rookie is doing since day 1 of putting on a Rockets uniform.
    I'm on team Cam! Let this kid start. This is what earning playtime looks like.
    This board needs to stop making excuses for Jalen. The fan base that got to enjoy the championship years, have just been fed excuses since those titles. Tmac +yao era excuses and what ifs, francis Mobley era - excuses, Harden era - excuses and what ifs.
    This kid is only 19 and has earned the starting SG spot.
    A) taller
    B) longer wingspan
    C) can flat out shoot
    D) works harder
    All the things we wish Jalen would do, this kid does!
    He's also just as athletic and since this is so important to some people, " he can jump really high"!
     
  11. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    The problem with your narrative is that this is not exactly true. The truth is not so simple and convenient.

    The truth is it seems Jalen works on his game a lot as has been acknowledged - outside of edited videos - since he was in high school by his coaches and teammates. Udoka and FVV checked in regularly to make sure as much as anyone can be sure of anyone working. What's happening is Green is working on his game and it's not resulting in anything useful except some muscle gained and a slightly better handle. His mid range has improved from garbage to bad.

    The truth is if Jalen had posted a lot of yoga videos this summer (like Jabari), we would be asking why the hell he did that. You're just retroactively grading these sessions. If the player improved, you are assuming they worked. If they didn't improve, you are assuming they didn't. It's not black and white like that. Not all offseason training works, in fact most of it doesn't move the needle much for anyone. Some players improve without training much in the summer. My guess is Jalen works on stupid **** in the summer like his midrange shot and stepback jumpers. That's stupid because he can't make a basic open shot at a good efficiency and that's destroying his career while he works on luxury shots. At the moment Cam deserves to be given a shot but it's his own tunnel vision and defense that's in his way. Jalen is not putting up much of a fight and Udoka has already approved trading Jalen.

    Also this team needs someone who can score and get to the line. Cam is not that guy yet. Jalen can do that far better than Cam (beat his man in isolation and finish with FT's). If you're not better than Jalen at that then you're not very good because Jalen is not so good at it. Jalen is also a better passer and defender than Cam. If Cam can't make 3's, he does absolutely nothing else in the game. Jalen is better at trying to get FTA's, rebounds and assists when his shot is not falling (thanks to Udoka's coaching).

    I know you're excited about Cam - believe me, I am too - but there's no need to exaggerate what he is in order to say he deserves to start. Jalen doesn't deserve to start, Cam's shooting may be more suitable for the starting lineup. I can't say Cam is a better overall player right now, but I can definitely see that in an offense with no movement, pace or space - 3pt shooting is far more likely to succeed than penetration. I also happen to think Jalen just needs his ego checked and should go to the bench. If that doesn't work to boost his development/confidence, I'm not sure much else will.
     
  12. Rochut

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    I love this
     
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  13. Rochut

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    This post raises an important point. Why does our offense have so little movement in it now? We have a good passing big man and a lot of players who do well operating off of movement. We moved more at the beginning of the year, up until around the 13 win mark.
     
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  14. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    because most young players aren’t taught how to cut of forced to cut in college/aau ball.

    One and done players are not going to be forced to learn team basketball fundamentals because THEY ARE the team offense. Coaches don’t care because they’re only there for one year and can carry a whole team.

    You can see the difference with Tari and Amen. Both older and both more fundamentally sound
     
  15. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    That's a question for one Ime Udoka. For me the answer is: you can't take a band of habitual losers (plus two great role players signed in FA) and revamp both the offense and the defense and individual winning habits in one season. No reasonable coach would accept that task. Udoka has miraculously moved us from 29th to 6th offense. That usually takes teams YEARS to achieve. 99% of champions are top 6 defensive teams.

    Further, he has improved - in my eyes - Sengun, Jalen and Jabari's defense significantly. He's improved Jabari and Tari's shot selection. He's convinced FVV and Brooks to shoot less. He's the first coach ever to convince Brooks to be wiser with 3's and has turned him from one of the worst shooters in the NBA to a near-40% shooter. He's made everyone give more effort and be more unselfish. He's also working on the development of 2 more rookies from scratch. As far as spacing goes, you just can't have good spacing with 2 poor shooters on the floor (Jalen and Sengun).

    That the secondary actions and swift execution of the offense is not ready imo is excusable to date. Now is the time to start working on that.
     
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  16. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    JalenStans.....get out of this thread - this is about a player who is working hard on his own game while your boy is partying.

    Sit tight, it will all be over soon.

    DD
     
  17. TriumVirate

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    I'm not a Jalen stan, but you are honestly the last person to talk especially when you are so enamored with KPJ of all players. You would constantly bring him up in every single thread that has nothing to do with him.
     
  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    KPJ was miles better than Jalen Green even with all of his issues....

    I like players that can play, not ones that can't.

    Cam Whitmore can play!!!!

    DD
     
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  19. AroundTheWorld

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    Didn't read this novel, mostly what I care about with a shooting guard is whether he can shoot:

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  20. Hemingway

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    Good post.
     

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