What do the bulls get out of this? Why is a rebuilding team giving away an unprotected first to dump 2 years of a decent player? If we do make a deal like this, how are we getting out of the jalen deal? Yes Chicago is as poorly run as anyone but why are they gonna help us
Reports were last season that they would give up a 1st. This season he is playing a little better, healthy, Bulls are still bad, and now he is significantly closer to being an expiring. There was a time when taking his contract was worth at least a first, although I think that time has past.
Stop the tunnel vision, stop being a black hole, pass the ball once in awhile and D up. Now go down to the G League, where you are the man, the best player, and break these habits!
...honestly you are overcomplicating it. Just trade Jalen Green for Coby White. Chicago are in a pickle where they need all star upside, Coby is solid but doesn't have that type of upside and the way they structured his contract they don't have the ability to offer him a competitive extension on his current deal so he is going to hit unrestricted free agency regardless and that offers him the chance to make both more money and play on a more competitive team so it begs the question of why he would ever stay. Chicago isn't winning right now anyway so the smart thing would be for them to trade him to get something of value for themselves if they don't think they are going to build around him. Meanwhile he just becomes another solid player in Houston, will be addition by subtraction of Green and all his bad shooting, and we just gotta find our scorer of the future elsewhere.
Lavine is the only realistic option to acquire that will not require many additional assets or trade filler in a swap for Jalen. Due to Jalen's contract extension, his salary would equal 29.5 million, which would only require the Rockets to add someone like Steven Adams to the deal. On the other hand, Jalen would be tough to trade for other trade targets who are making less. Regardless of the issue regarding Jalen's contract, does he have positive value? With how Jalen has and is playing, do you think Lavine's contract is worse than Jalen's? I would much rather have Lavine expire in two years than wait for Jalen to expire in three years as I have lost any hope he is redeemable. He is what he is.
He is not a realistic option until the off-season. Jalen's outgoing salary for trade purposes is 30m, incoming is 13M. Both teams are over the cap. In order to trade Jalen just to the Bulls the Bulls would have to jettison non-guaranteed contracts equalling 17m which they do not have. The poison pill of Jalen's contract would force a multi-team trade with teams that either have cap space (there are none) or finding mulitiple teams to eat up the 17M shortfall. Who is providing all the assets to assuage 2 or 3 teams to participate? His salary avgs 47m over this year and the next 2. Stone has worked extremely hard to have the flexibility to get a star in the next year or two. He is not giving up that flexibility for an oft-injured no defense playing SG.
I don’t think the G-league is good for Cam. It’s kind of the opposite of team basketball…which is what Cam needs to focus on.
Chicago has a TPE that can take in Tate and Landale. Lavine is easy peasy if you use Spotrac's trade machine which unlike Fanspo takes into account that MLEs are now trade exceptions. FYI, Spotrac lists the available MLEs here https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/exceptions. As the Rockets have small contracts that are expiring, there are plenty of teams that can take Tate, Landale, and/or Jeff Green using a TPE. Some teams have hard capped themselves such that they can't use all of their MLE, but enough teams that trading small expiring shouldn't take more than a SRP. A guy like Tate should only need finding a contender with a thin roster, MLE, and has space under any apron that they are/would be hard capped without a SRP.
If I am wrong on the poison pill ramifications of this trade i apologize. i would kindly ask that @BimaThug weigh in. if it is possible i still don't think the Rockets would entertain it because Lavine's 47m contract would hamstring their flexibility for two seasons after this one and Lavine is an injury prone no defensive playing SG. Green will be infinitely more tradeable after July just because of potential, he is 22 years old.
I don’t know why cam is given such a short leash but Jalen has been given so many chances and we’re in year four already.
I don't think G-league has a lot of developmental value. (They even changed the "D" into "G" drinking Gatorade instead of developing! ) It's just a place to keep the guy busy instead of sitting on the bench doing nothing. Playing 15 minutes a game in the NBA develops you much more than playing starter minutes in the G-league. But if you can't crack even 10 mpg in the big league, then you aren't getting much learning time either.
Love it, but we would have to throw in at least one substantial pick. Ausur was the 5th pick in his draft class. Cam is in the G-league for a reason. I haven't given up on him, but man he is hard to give the benefit of the doubt. He needs to mature quickly. He has the body language of a 15 year old.
It isn't the poison pill part you are wrong about. While there isn't much cap space out there, there are still TPEs and MLEs out there that can be used to accept salary in trades to get around those ramifications. It just comes down to how do you get teams to accept Rockets players for their TPEs. I don't know how expensive it will be to get teams to use their TPEs and MLEs this deadline. For Green, the Bulls should be perfectly okay getting Lavine off their books and spending their TPEs. I'd say it is much more likely that the Rockets would want more than Lavine for Green despite Lavine likely being a better right now.
