Cam Thomas vs. Jalen Green? Who is the best 2 guard from the 2021 NBA Draft

The Nets offering Cam Thomas 2/28 including a team option. Miami got Norm Powell for essentially some cap relief. Colin Sexton needed a 2nd rounder to get off the contract. The Jalen Green archetype is definitely worth very little to NBA teams these days.

 

I think there's just so many of them now. There's no point overpaying unless you have a supreme talent cuz most of the time an SF can do the same thing but better.

 

I think the talent level in the NBA is increasing. I think the bolded part is indicative of the problem score-first small guards are having. There are more, bigger guys today that can do enough of what they do, but don't have the defensive limitations. You gotta be special as a score-first guard to get paid.

 

Imagine if we had any of cade, mobley, suggs, wagner. Instead we got a salary filler for a 40yr old

 

Green a good player, but how effective will he be next to booker?

It will be hard when he needs his 30 chucks a night, and booker is the main scoring option. I can see his ppg going down. He wont
get the touches he had in Houston.

Mobley stats went way down once Francis was on his game, i know that's a bad comparison but still.

 

Booker is more efficient than JG

 

To be fair to Jalen, I don’t think he's the same archetype as those other guys. Jalen at least tries to get to the basket or shoot 3s. Those other guys are all dribble dribble midrange dribble dribble midrange and never pass. Jalen at least had potential to be an elite scorer while the others cap out as Lou Williams.

 

Suggs is overpaid. Wagner is paid like a franchise player but isn't one. The only guys worth the money are cade and mobley. I'd rather have "salary filler" Green who is now Durant.

 

Career % shots at the basket and FT rate for these players. Including FT rate cause FTs are mostly generated with shots close to the basket.

Jalen 22%, 27%
Powell 26%, 28%
Sexton 25%, 30%
Cam Thomas 13%, 29%
Lou Williams 22%, 39%

Jalen is athletic, but he's not functionally athletic. His highlights look good but it takes a lot of possessions for him to get those few highlight plays.

 

his cult do love their fast running and high jumpinghighlights

 

That 37 yr old is one of the best players ever and only Cade in that list of yours has any hope of matching him.

 

Suggs? Are you on drugs? These are their stats from last year:

Jalen Green
21 pts 3.6 ast 4.6reb .9stl .3 blk 42.3%fg 35.4% 3pt 81.3% FT

Jalen Suggs
16.2 pts 3.7ast 4.0 reb 1.5stl .9bl 41%fg 31.4% 3pt 88.2% Ft

Suggs aint **** tbh, fair enough on Cade or Mobley, but ****ing Suggs? Come on now, the dude is as pedestrian as it gets.

 

Then why is CF crying over Cam Whitmore? He seems pretty similar to those players as an archetype

 

You are right but at only 23 he still has his entire life ahead of him to improve. There are rookies his age. Jalen has the tools and talent to be a star but unfortunately he is lacking in BBall IQ to take advantage of his gifts. I think playing Devin Booker is gonna be great for him as he can learn the right approach and style. Also if the Suns get a coach that is better offensively than Ime.

 

Suggs is also playing in the leastern conference beating up on bad teams 4x a season lol.

 

Prob because we got garbage for him.

 

Shots at the rim tend to decrease with age due to loss of athleticism. Take a guy who's also known for speed in Norm Powell. When he broke out at age 26 he took 1/3 of his shots at the rim. Last year that dropped to 18%. Jalen took 27% of his shots at the rim his rookie year, and 19% last year. Player rarely get to the basket more as they grow older. Harden for instance took more step-back 3s and developed a floater as he grew old and no longer as capable to get by his man. Even as he became a better player, he was less reliant on getting to the basket.

 

Can't speak for others, but the comp going into the draft was Jaylen Brown. Unlike Green, he at least should be capable of being a top level defender. Jalen even actualizing all his talent would still be a below average defender.

 

Uh no Jalen was already a much better defender than Cam thats why he played the 2nd most minutes after FVV.

Dont tell me Ime doesnt care about defense?