Yes, there definatly can be one. A criminal verdict can never preclude a civil trial. They are independant.
This thread could use a good seinfeld quote in honor of Calvin being found innnocent. Best if luck to him. KRAMER What would you say if I told you, "I never impregnated a woman"? JERRY Really? You never slipped one past the goalie in all these years??.. Boy, I'm surprised. You've slept with a lot of women, I-- KRAMER A lot of 'em! [wild gesture, freaked out] Do you think maybe I'm.. Depleted??!!
He wasn't found innocent. They determined that there wasn't enough evidence to prove guilt. There is a big difference.
Cesar, in case you have forgotten, it is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Which means that unless someone came up with some real evidence...Calvin is INNOCENT. As far as Calving coming back, I'd put heavy money on him not coming back til next season. They signed a contract for the year with Van, and Im sure they are gonna honor it. but I have faith that he will be back....
The ESPN article I read said the Rockets are not even going to evaluate his status with the team until the end of the season so I'd say its a pretty safe bet that Van is going to be there until at least the end of the season.
aaah... thanks...hadnt read that. they can do what they want at this point(I dont mind Van right now)...as long as the end result is my man Calvin back in the booth with Bill.
When you are on a jury you only vote on if their is enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt someone is guilty. You may believe some one iis guilty, feel in your gut they are guilty but still must vote not guilty because the burden of proof wasn't met.
Okay, But you are innocent until proven guilty, Calvin was not proven guilty (no matter the reason), so that makes Calvin innocent.
Calvin isn't a lawyer. CG, doesn't the fact that the jury didn't deliberate very long persuade you that there probably wasn't much evidence to convict on? Anyway, this isn't over. $20 in the tip jar says the girls file a civil suit within the next three months.
Jurors found Murphy not guilty on all counts -- three charges of indecency with a child and three charges of aggravated sexual assault of a child. AP The jury deliberated for only 2 hours to arrive at this Not Guilty verdict so the prosecution's case and witnesses were weak and not credible otherwise there would have been a longer deliberation. This was a clear cut vindication for Calvin and HE IS INNOCENT.
1. juries don't proclaim innocence. they proclaim guilty or not guilty. 2. doesn't matter. the jury didn't find anywhere near enough evidence to convict. so call it whatever you want...innocent...not guilty..it's semantics. 3. the other facts that came out from this case did a good deal of damage to calvin's reputation; particularly those related to his children by many different women. but he's a human being like the rest of us...capable of falling and being redeemed. perhaps this experience, as painful as it was, turned out to be humbling enough to force him to reconsider some things in his life. hopefully, that's the case.
That happens in all cases, whether someone is patently innocent or guilty. So you're saying you have information that some of the jurors suspected he was guilty but could not find him guilty because the evidence presented could not prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. I would like to see those sources. FREE CALVIN
semantics or no.... my point remains, if in our system of justice, you are innocent until proven guilty, and if you are not proven guilty.....then arent you still innocent? whatever you want to call it, the evidence didnt back up the charges...the jury didnt even see fit to give it any major amounts of deliberation. in your experience Max, what does that say about the case when the jury takes so little time to talk about it?
