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Calvin Murphy thoughts on Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BackNthDay, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. choujie

    choujie Member

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    It's not like Lowry/Ariza/Scola are all scoring liabilities. One or two guys shooting all shots won't happen again with the makeup of this team and RA's system. But Yao/Martin should take more shots than other 3 if possible because their scoring efficiency, as long as those shots are forced.

    You are right, AB would get less shots. Unless he changes his approach, this means he'll have less impact to the starting unit, because right now most of his impact is based on how many shots he makes. He needs to do a much better job at play making and defense to keep his impact as big as this year.

    That also means what Murphy said is right. Better pay making, better defense instead of jacking up shots next year should be the better aporoach for AB next season.
     
  2. crash5179

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    True enough. But Hakeem is number three on the list so I'm not sure how relevant that list really is. Calvin is not in the top ten at Assists per game.
     
  3. rhino17

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    This is the same Calvin Murphy who used to tell me all the time that Francis also took too many shots and should be moved to SG so the best PG on the team could start. He was of course referring the Moochie Norris.
     
  4. albuster

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    And if I recall the defensive players then were allowed to pretty much hold and grab. The rule of thumb then was no harm, no foul-translation-no blood, no foul. Nowadays, no defensive player can so much as touch an offensive player facing the basket on the perimeter. The defensive rules now are much lamer than before.

    Murph was spot on with his first three statements. His last one was part of the warrior culture in the NBA back then wherein the great players believed no one was better than them, and they would literally fight to prove that. No "superstar" calls then, no prima donna's, no espn hype machine. It was all blood and guts. Murph knows what he was talking about, no argument there from me.
     
  5. ktbballplaya

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    He was spot on.
    So what if murphy as a player his best asset was shooting? Hes seen a lot of basketball and can see that that style of play from brooks is not going to be successful with this team.
     
  6. iconoclastic

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    He contradicts himself there. He said he doesn't want to trade Scola away for Bosh, who gives us the size and shotblocking Scola doesn't have and makes it very hard for opponents to finish in the paint against us. Then in the next breath he says we cannot advance past the 2nd round without improving our defense. It's either the PF or PG positions where we will improve our defense- Kevin Martin is much more valuable to the Rockets than any other team and we already have 2 good defensive SF.
     
  7. Malcolm

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    I only have one problem with this post. You should have ended this with this is BackNthDay reporting from Seven Lakes High School field.
     
  8. Malcolm

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    He's saying Bosh doesn't do that.
     
  9. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    RA's system of motion offense has a much more balanced scoring. However, someone still needs to facilitate the offense and that is the point guard. I will take Bibby prime over AB prime any day and Bibby did have great court vision, just didn't show up as much in RA's system because there is more team ball movement.
     
  10. chenjy9

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    I also don't know why we are still trying to call AB a PG. He is not a point guard. He is an undersized two guard like Ben Gordon and Nate Robinson. Point guards are called point guards because they run the point. They are the quarterback of the team where the offense starts from. They don't have to be playmakers, but they do have to be the eye of the offense.
     
  11. iconoclastic

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    Well I would have to disagree with him then. Bosh averages 1 block a game and rebounds better than Luis. More importantly, Pau Gasol wasn't known as a good defensive player in Memphis either, but pair him up with a 7 footer and suddenly it's much harder to get a good shot in the paint or get a rebound against the Lakers. Bosh has the mobility and length to automatically be better at defending the paint than Luis. Plus, on the Raptors Bosh is the focal point on offense so he has to reserve his energy on defense, whereas on this team he can concentrate more on defense and expend less energy on offense with the other elite options we have.
     
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    It's not about assists, it's about orchestrating the offense.
     
  13. dandorotik

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    C'mon, pgabriel, did you have to bring "black" into another thread??
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    (a joke from another thread)
     
  14. Yetti

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    Actually, Francis was only a Point Guard in name and Moochie who was a much inferior scorer was indeed a superior play maker. Generally the Point Guards were under the dominance of Francis and they all played the same way but on one occasion when Francis was injured Moochie got to start and was told to pass the ball to Yao. It resulted in a great game, with Moochie gaining the best one game assist record of his Rockets career, from which Yao benifited greatly.
    Next game for sure Francis made an unexpected return and dribble mania resumed as normal and Moochie relegated to the bench.
    (Francis just hated to be shown up in this way) :p
     
  15. saleem

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    You're correct.
     
  16. Qball

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    Partially correct :p
     
  17. UTAllTheWay

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    I don't know, the more I think about it, the more I lean towards wanting the Bosh trade to happen. The thought of getting that much size and length down low is extremely hard to overlook... and adding Kyle Lowry to the starting lineup (assuming we trade Brooks in the process) would improve the defense of the starting lineup even more.

    Pull off that trade and then add an extra scorer via free agency or draft that can come off the bench, and I think it's a great move to take.

    Obviously, a Bosh trade is probably a long shot, but I really don't think I would oppose it.
     
  18. coachbadlee

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    DITTO ;)
     
  19. Hakeemtheking

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    Murphy made a point that Brooks is a scorer. I would agree to that and say Brooks is a TERRIFIC scorer.

    Watching the playoffs I see the difficulty some of these points guards have in converting shots, with the exception of a very few like Nash, Williams and Rose. Everybody else either does not have a reliable 3-point shot or are very hesitant on a long 2.

    The point I am trying to make is for us not to shortchange ourselves in what we have in Brooks. He is terrific and some of these playoffs teams would kill to have him on their teams.
     
  20. coachbadlee

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    How many rings were won?
     

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