Dang...larsv8 ownage still going on up in here? <iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Qh2sWSVRrmo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Overall, Harden's 4.6 TOs per game lead NBA. He was 5th among regulars per minute until past three games. Now only Westbrook averages more.</p>— Jonathan Feigen (@Jonathan_Feigen) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/713411789065617408">March 25, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Harden is definitely a turnover prone player. I don't think anyone would dispute that, and it's an issue he has to work on. That being said, part of the reason he's committing historically many turnovers is his durability. Per minute basis, Harden used to be 5th in the league, and now 2nd behind Westbrook. But since he leads the league in minutes and played almost every game this season, he's on pace for breaking the record. I just don't think Harden should be the primary ball handler. His passing and dribbling skills can be put to good use without him playing de facto point guard for us. We just need to find the right pieces.
Larsv8 isn't that wrong. He is turning it over at a very slightly higher rate than last season, it's essentially 1 more turnover per 100 possessions. It's absolutely something he needs to work on, but it's not also not something new per se. The thing that has changed the most, at least in my opinion, is the type of turnovers and time in the game that they are coming. He has had some crucial late game turnovers that have been back breakers. Those stick out like a sore thumb to fans, and rightfully so. Last season Harden was insanely clutch. That was a huge reason we were so good in games decided by 5 or fewer points. This season he has gone the opposite way. I would like to think that this season is hopefully the anomaly and last year was the norm, but truthfully the norm is probably right in the middle somewhere. Regardless, if you are putting yourself in the position the Rockets have constantly been in this season, where we need a near flawless comeback to win, you are just setting yourself up for failure. 1 or 2 turnovers shouldn't decide the outcome of a game, but the Rockets continue to put themselves in that position with horrible 1st and 3rd quarters.
You bumped this about a minute before Harden scored 17 in the 4th and led the Rockets to a win. You know what doesn't matter? You. Your opinion/taunt/whatever the hell this is you are doing is not worth a cognac & perspiration drenched beard hair that will no doubt be left behind in some Champagne room later tonight. This should be cause for a moment of reflection on your part. Ill be waiting.
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Please tell me how your statement has anything to do with a need to cut down turnovers. Thats like punching someone in the face and being like "I just donated 20$ to charity!" Great 4th qrtr of course, but I don't understand how that vindicates a big turnover problem that has plagued this team the entire season...one of the most disappointing rockets seasons of all time in fact.
Of course I liked the win. What does that have to do with anything? I bumped the thread after Bickerstaff and Webber's comments during the game. "Bad offense leads to bad defense" Our turnovers are a huge problem. Webber commented on it quite a bit. It was just interesting that everyone acknowledges the problem except for our overly biased fan base.
Hi Polly her my! It has nothing to do with cut down turnovers and everything to do with the embarrassing nature of the crowfeather enema that awaits some dirt farming threadhumper who starts/bumps a thread ragging on the Beard, the best Rockets player in decades, at the peak of his powers, in midgame...right before said player goes stage 3 Altered Beast on some mofos. This has happened a number of times insofar as Harden is one of the handful of people on the planet who can do this with some regularity. Honestly get your sad ass off a Rockets message board if you can't enjoy things like tonight and are more concerned that your online Wang had shrinkage The same goes for you , friend. Consider this a warning.
Derpwah going out of his way to look like an idiot tonight. 27 points, 6 rebounds, 8 assists BUT BUT BUT 4 TURNOVERS
Harden is the only bright spot in this **** stain of a regular season. I'll gladly take his turnovers and defense.
And this is the problem. You guys look at turnovers after an individual game instead of the entirety of the season. Sam, your post comes between 1 and likely 3 games before Harden blows an 8-10 turnover atrocity. We are one game under.500 for the season. If you just look at last night's game by itself we are 1.000. There's no question Harden is going to put together some monster games. He's a top 5 player. That's fact. But these are some of the rest of the facts: 1. We are in transition defense more than any other team except the Sixers and Lakers. 2. We are one of the very worst defenses in large part because we are in transition defense do often at man disadvantage. 3. Harden leads the league in turnovers. 4. No player had ever won a championship leading the league in turnovers in the 3-point era. 4. Harden fits not offset his turnovers with steals and offensive rebounds even 50%. That's a tremendous of net turnovers for 1 player. 5. We are one game below.500 with Harden playing this way. 6. We are 15-24 against teams above.500 playing this way. James Harden is the catalyst for all the above facts.
The fallacy with that last post, is that it puts all of the blame for a sub .500 season on James Harden. And that's absolutely ridiculous when you consider the burden he carries on the offensive end with this group of players.
Harden did pretty much the same things last year as he did this year and the Rockets were about 18 wins better. To the extent he has declined it is in the low single digit % (and in some categories, he's doing slightly better than last year); obviously his usage is up; to the extent the Rockets winning percentage declined it is way, way more than any individual Harden decline.
