Calling Jerry West. Warning trade proposal!

Personally, i think West is looking for expiring contracts, not really players. In all honesty, West has a couple of problems with his team that was given to him from other poor decisions. Williams and Dickerson have 7yr deal paying about the same money. He also have overloads at a couple of positions like the 3 and 4. The only bait West has at his disposal is the 6m expiring contract of Person and the talented forward in Swift. Swift seemed to come into his own at the end of last season, but he plays the same position as their best player,Gasol. The best scenerio involving Memphis doesn't even include the Rockets. If West is serious about getting rid of a contract or 2, he's going to have to unload Swift. A team like Utah is probably a ideal scenrio for West because they could take a contract without having to take one back. Say Dickerson or Williams,Swift and and Wright for Ostertag and a future 1st rd pick. Utah gets a pf in Swift, a pg in Williams and a center in wright while Memphis gets cap relief quickly. As many scenrios posters on this board like to point out, its safe to say other teams can do better.

 

I don't mind making proposals either as long as they're pretty fair or close to being fair. I mean lets not think the Rockets have a bunch of players alot of teams want, but i do think they have something that can be offered in a package type deal. To me , one of the main goals for the Rockets should be deciding on a pf and getting rid of salary. Of all the contracts, Norris and Taylors are the worse because of time vs money. If Griffin is going to be the player they think, why pay his backup 8m per yr? If Francis doesn't have a complete breakdown, why pay his backup 3.5 for 5more seasons and 25mins of playing time. Just like McHale wheeled Sam Cassell for Joe Smith, the Rockets have to be creative like that also. One deal to look out for is Terry to Utah. If they Jazz are really that desperate and somehow got Terry, how desperate would Atl be? Could the Rockets swing a deal that could bring them SAR for Taylor and Cat?SAR and Griffin at the 3-4 sounds better than any other 3-4 combination we have. If it menas getting rid of Nacbar, so be it because with SAR at the 3, he'll never play anyway. It really about not stockpiling players at the same position and overpaying for them. It still baffles me on why we couldn't send Cato to Indy and get in on the Hedo sweepstakes. Cato and his 6m could have been substituted for Pollard and his 6m. It just seems like all the trades that went on involving the west, the Rockets were not even close to being in the mix.

 

It's cool, I take the blame for that one.

 

To be honest with you, I think the Rockets have some of the best trade bait at the moment, but since we appointed a new coach, we're more reluctant to let players go.

Rice
Mobley
Cato
Griffin


These guys are excellent trade bait. Cap relief, production, size with production, and potential.

I think there's potential for 2 great deals.

I also think that Utah would be happy to take MoT for a second round pick. Like I've said before, he's a young PF who showed towards the end of the season that he's shaken off his injury, and is a proven scorer. He has the ability to put up 20 points on any given night.

I really have no idea why we're not making a trade, because we have horrible F's, no capsapce, and our backcourt isn't good enough to make up for our defficiencies.

 

I've already been proven ignorant once in this thread, so please prove me that way again. Why wouldn't you try to get more for him?

 

If Utah would take Mo Taylor and his contract, i would do it in a heartbeat, but why not go after SAR and Ratliff instead? Or why not go after some of Memphis trash like Williams or Dickerson along with Swift? Contrary to popular belief, Utah still is in good position. They may not be able to get a premier free agent, but they can take on contracts like Sa did. They couldprobably get Harrington if they took Croshere also.

 

why are ya'll worried about trades.......the rockets are not gonna make a trade esp w/ a new coach coming into town unless there's a chance to get a superstar or budding superstar. The rocks think they have a good team and wanna see what JVG can do with this team......wait till next year ladies.....

 

You see lee, Mo Taylor actually played last season. Dickerson played, what, 4 games at the beginning? Swift is not up for grabs. Asked if they would trade him, West said something like "We're trying to get bigger, not tradeaway size."

Croshere makes as much as Mo does, but isn't half the player. Croshere had one barely decent season, and one good series. Mo has done what he does consistently, and he's proven that he's good at it. Mo got injured, simple as that, and no one saw anything last season that said "Nope, he's affected by his injury..see, he can't do this anymore."

Why wouldn't they take SAR? because Atlanta wouldn't do it. Why would they take Ratliff? Ratliff is not a piece, and he is overpaid AS WELL.


It's so hilarious how it's ok for Ratliff and Croshere to be overpaid, and you think Utah will take them, but when it comes to Mo, there's no way. Ratliff is the one who admitted that he hasn't and never will fully heal from his injury. He said he is held back by his injury, and will play with it. SAR is the perrenial loser that you accuse Mo of being. Croshere? I won't even bother.

P.S. Utah would definately take on Croshere and Harrongton at the same time. But do you think Indiana would do it?

 

OMG trade #1 and #4 is such a rip off in Memphis's view and the other 2 trades r useless...lol..why do you people predict trades for?? lol..waste of time..it's not even gonna happen..u could as well predict a trade on every team on the nba..

 

#1 and #4 sound good for us memphis would never do it

 

Secretary: Mr. West there is a Mr. Dawson on line 3.

The Logo: Tell him I'll be out of my office until the trade deadline, thakyou toots.

 

Nope, no one saw his production drop from pre-injury, 13 pts and 8 rebs to 8 pts and 4 rebs.

Nope, no one saw him not being able to beat out one of the worst starting PFs in the league to get his job back.

Nope, no one saw Mo have off and on problems during the season with his ankle.

Nope, no one saw Mo having to come out early or not play a couple of games all together because of the ankle.

Nope, other than what I have just listed, no one saw anything from Mo that said he was not affected by his season ending injury of a year before.

Sane, I realize that you don't want to have discussions with me anymore because I can't help calling you out on some of the more ludicrous things that you just make up out of the blue, but this was just too outrageous for me to ignore. Please forgive me.

 

codell,

You know what, if you're so obssesed with me that you can't do without my comments, then I'll just answer you. I just HOPE that you understand the definition of "opinion".

His production dropped. No **** sherlock. He was getting back his fitness and was splitting mroe minutes. he was getting his legs back and was still a bit hesitant AT FIRST.

No, he didn't not beat Eddie out of the starter's spot. But, as I said above, he was getting his fitness/legs back, and was unable to play big minutes anyway.

Ankle problems have been there since Clipper days, thank you very much. Last I heard, the ACL or Achilles or whatever it was has nothing to do with his ankle. You know what DID affect his ankle and overall game? The weight he put on, and the rust he accumulated.

You know what people mean when they say he won't be the same after injury? It's like when Alonzo Mournign realized he will never be able to play 40 minutes a game regularly. It was when Grant Hill came back, couldn't dunk and changed his game int o a more complimentary role, then the ankle that was the problem broke down. It was when Zydrunas Illgauskas was limited to 30 minutes a game because he had 3 operations, couldn't move as quick or jump as high anymore.

You know why there's hope for Mo? Because towards the end of the season, in March, he average 11.1 ppg on .496 shooting in 23.6 minutes. That's just under 20ppg over just under 40 minutes a game. Oh, that's around 17ppg to be precise. You're right. he'll never be the scorer he was ebfore his injury, will he?

 

I like how non-playoff teams like to talk so much smack. I was not saying anything insulting. It is a fact, we would take Yao due to need and Francis due to talent. We have better players at every other position.

 

Just Hilarious. Yao due to need, and Francis due to talent.

There's only ONE C you'd pick over Yao in the entire league. So even if you had every starting C outside of Shaq and Yao, you'd STILL want Yao.

Oh, and you know why you'd want Francis? Because he's just amazing.

Don't make it sound like you have better players at every position. You'd love to have Mobley, Cato, or Rice. Rice provides cap relief and experience, Mobley would be the best SG on your roster and least paid mind you, and Cato is the type of big man West is looking for at the moment.

 

Although your first post really wasn't insulting...I believe Mobley is a level better than Wesley Person. And Michael Dickerson hasn't played at all recently.....he was a Rocket. Yeah....and you'd love Cato and Rice.

We just want the role players on your team. Your star player...Pau Gasol sucks! Well at least for now....he could become awesome later....

 

Pau sucks? When Yao puts up numbers better than his rookie numbers let me know. Or does Yao suck also?

Mobley is marginally better than Person because he is a better athlete. He does not use that athleticism to play defense so it is wasted. Person is a better shooter. Mobely is not better than Mike D. was healthy.

Anyways..we would not want Cato under any circumstances. He can't bang inside or control the defensive boards any better than what we already have in place. Rice would be good only for cap clearing purposes.

Both of our teams are a ways away from where we want them to be.

 

Pau doesn't suck, but he's no Yao Ming. Yao Ming averaged 13 and 9 on a team that won 43 games. You don't think he could average 20/10 on the sorry ass team that Pau played with in his rookie season?

Mobley is not marginally better than Person. Give me a break. Person can ONLY shoot. Mobley can score, defend, rebound. Sure, we're not his biggest fans, but he's way better than Person, and as good as Mike D AT LEAST. Let's not forget who was on the court at the end of games when both Mike D and Mobley were with the Rockets.

Cato doesn't control the defensive boards or bang? Have you been asleep for the past 82 games? Cato was 2nd to only Ben Wallace in rebounds per 48 minutes. Aside from that, he was an amazing defensive presence, banged inside, brought some great toughness to the team, and hammered the ball home everytime he could. The closest thing you have to Cato is swift. Lo Wright? you're kidding me aren't you? You think he can do what Cato can do? He doesn't have the SIZE.

Let's hope for YOUR sake that Jerry West does his homework a littl better than you do.

 

"Both of our teams are a ways away from where we want them to be."


You want to be a .500 team, we want to be the NBA Champions. So at least SOMETHING you said made sense.