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Calling all sane people...end the Reefer Madness already

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by zilches, Oct 31, 2007.

  1. ump

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    Fortunately, it will not fall on blind eyes :D

    I completely agree with his assessment.
     
  2. SWTsig

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    let us pray.
     
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    and there is quite an extension of his ego in this place, steve is better than rafer with 2 hands tied behind his back. i hope steve never comes close to this board, he's just going to see a whole bunch of mirror images of himself.

    the vspan crowd has another lovable figure
     
  4. daddy cool

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    It aint about him being better than one guy or another. It's him being a TEAM player and fitting into a TEAM concept and in this aspect of the game he is not a better player.
     
  5. Dreamshake

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    You grasped this how exactly? From preseason? Please don't say based on the past, because Rafers play of the past is horredous. Steve in preseason was pushing the ball, distributed and didnt look to take over the game too much except in OT of one preseason game running with scrubs.

    You guys are hilarious. Steve has a lifetime 2-1 assist to t.o. ratio basically. If that is what rafer is going to give us, plus his crappy D, his stupid wilting under pressure, and his absolute suckitude at being wide open and not hitting crap then whats the point of Rafer again?
     
  6. SWTsig

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    clearly you have trouble grasping simple concepts, so perhaps you should just run along.

    maybe start "rafer sux0r, SF3 rulez!!!1!1!" thread or something.
     
  7. rofflesaurus

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    Hate Rafer all you want, he'll still be starting when our other options are Mike James and Francis, who both can't pass or get a team involved worth a lick. Rafer starts because of the same reason Hayes starts instead of Scola. We don't need much scoring when Yao and T-Mac are in. Mike James provides instant offense which is why he's so valuable off the bench. However once Rafer starts to struggle, as you saw last night, James can come in and carry the load.
     
  8. Franco7

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    Wow, that's a tall order to put on James back each night.
    Rafer lead us to a 14 point deficit, against the Lakers. I don't even want to think about the hole MJ will have to fill against Spurs, Suns & Mavs!
    Face it folks, Rafer is not the answer.
     
  9. rofflesaurus

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    stop hating. rafer didnt lead us to a 14 pt deficit. it was the t-mac and yao who both missed easy shots, and yao's carless turnovers. point is it's the TEAM that gets down not one player.
     
  10. Franco7

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    LOL...it's hating to show that Rafer at point costs us dearly??
    Rafer has no consistent offense, that's why we were in a hole. James' shots are more likely to fall.
    Rafer made Derek Fisher look 10 yrs younger.
     
  11. zilches

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    It's also a tall order for Yao and TMac. They will be starting the game with 2 offensive liabilities with Rafer and Hayes on the court. I think a lot of us were thinking that Alderman wanted to make the game easier on Yao and TMac, but this lineup is last year's model - 3 against 5 on offense.

    So, it appears that all of our guard acquistions at this point are simply to bolster our bench. I think a lot of us were expecting more.
     
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    it was only rafer that the rockets were in the hole? really....?

    lets see. 1st quarter...yao 1-4 shooting, battier 1-5, tmac 1-5, alston 0-1....yeah you are right. it was rafers 0-1 that put them in the the hole.

    And why are people so surprised to see fisher play well? did they forget last year? The guy has always made big plays and big shots in clutch situations.
     
  13. knickstorm

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    i tell you , these rafer haters just dont understand basketball......they dont understand it's not always the best player that's the best option, it's the player that best fits and james as the PG would be disastrous.........

    we could win the championship and fans would still point to one turnover or missed shot of rafer to say he almost cost it for them.

    i kinda hope rafer sprains an ankle and misses a week or 2, then people can see how this team runs.
     
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    First of all, we got two guards who were bench players from lottery teams. It's not Morey or Adelman's fault that some of you were deluded into thinking that either of those two guys were certified starters. You only have yourself to blame if you were expecting more.

    Fact is the Rockets went above and beyond this offseason improving the team with very little resources. Please tell me you're not complaining that the Rockets should have done more in the offseason. Be realistic.

    Second, our most glaring weakness last season was our bench and depth, not our starting point guard.
     
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    maybe you forgot the rockets started cutting into the lead while rafer was out there running point
     
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    That was my point.
    With a PG on the floor that can shoot, you have another option. When T-Mac and Yao are struggling Rafe has to leave the floor for us to get some points??
    This is last year's recipe, but I doubt we'll see much more of it as the opposition only becomes increasingly tougher.
     
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    Just as you guys said don't praise him after 1 game or even a full preseason, it's been 1 regular season game. He was not the only guy ****ing up at the end of the game.

    Geez so many people here have blinders on.
     
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    that's the thing though.

    last year it was okay that we had non offensive players out on the court with tmac and yao becaust that was the way JVG had things designed.

    This year it will not be the case. Adelman's offense requries that we have offensive options at as many positions as possible. We can't afford to have players who can not score on the court or it won't work. If you want a high scoring team, then you have to have playes who can score out there consistently. Chuck Hayes and Rafer are not that.
     
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    no it's just the rookies
     
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    I'm sure management was expecting more also, but theres noone to fault for that except themselves. the point is the dust has settled and Rafer is still our best option at PG (to start with).
     

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