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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Jul 20, 2010.

  1. Batman Jones

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    From the link you provided with (I guess) top or most recent "pants on fire" incidents:

    - 10 were from known Republicans (elected officials, candidates or pundits)
    - 6 are from conservative leaning chain mails (hi, giddy!)
    - 2 were statements from Ed Schulz, both of which pretty clearly read as mistakes
    - and 1 was a blog whose leanings, if any, I don't know

    So on the front page of your 'who's the biggest liar' site, the score is 16-2 in favor of Republicans being the ones with their pants on fire.

    But 16-2 is "hardly" a difference.
     
  2. rimbaud

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    I would just like to point out that the facts prov that I am way more awesome than either of you guys. I know more about stuff and my bias is biased against being biased.

    I also don't get my news from crappy MSM "news" or "newspapers" or "internets" or "maga"zines...I get my news from myself. It is the only way to ensure quality and a lack of bias.

    Now who has the guts to debate me? The loser has to change their real name into their bbs moniker forever. Put up or shut up, yo.
     
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  3. Batman Jones

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    Not me.
     
  4. rimbaud

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    No fun. Don't you think you would get more cool press if your writing credits were under "Batman Jones"? Then you could go Hollywood.

    I see a musical action thriller with Parsons starring as an out of control FBI agent who decides to rob banks by pretending to be an Autistic janitor, only to fall in love with the President of the bank that offers his "biggest job" and chance to retire to some cool island in the Mediterranean. His love shockingly gets in the way and mucks up the job so that all he is left with is a street smart, jive talking sidekick who teaches him the real meaning of life and that being an FBI agent is way cooler than being in love or living on an island. So he goes Fed again only this time he is so twisted from his experiences that he just starts killing people for fun and becomes a serial killer. The climactic conclusion will involve him kidnapping the bank president and the sidekick and then eating them, followed by a breakout into a "Don't Stop Believing" cover.
     
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  5. Rashmon

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    I always think of Patti Smith when I see you post...

    Go Rimbaud, go Rimbaud,
    And go Johnny go, and do the watusi, oh do the watusi
     
  6. rimbaud

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    Are you saying my posting style is akin to a 70's female punk-ish singer-songwriter?

    I agree - I am filled with pre-commercialized girlish angst poetry.
     
  7. Rashmon

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    Purely complimentary. Please don't hurt me with your words.
     
  8. rimbaud

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    Divine providence! I knew it wasn't an insult but I am glad you wrote that because now I have an idea for a name for my next (first) exhibition that I will probably never do. Nonetheless, I can envision it well and I think it would be a good show. I really have problems. I have so many ideas for shows or books but am a combination of lazy and easily distract-able that nothing ever comes of anything...ever. I need some kind of motivator/manager to help with such things but usually you have to have and show the talent first, make money and acclaim, and then get the manager type. The wifey would be good but she has a real job and doesn't have time for my uselessness.

    Thank you, Dr. Rashmon, for bringing me back to wallow in my psyche.

    By the way - whenever I see your posts I think of Kurosawa...even though the spelling is different.
     
  9. basso

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  10. GladiatoRowdy

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    Been there, done that, got the new moniker recently, thank you.
     
  11. GladiatoRowdy

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    I'm not keeping score, you are the one who said that one was enough. At any rate, I made my point. There are some people who will defend Fox tooth and nail as a bastion of honest discourse, despite the fact that they are wrong. Some people will defend MSNBC in the same way, despite the fact that they are wrong.

    IMO, the biggest problem is the medium, not the message. TV and, to a greater extent, radio, provide information in a way that makes it easy to internalize, but difficult to analyze while thinking critically or fact checking. Radio is worse because of the likelihood that we are doing other things while listening, so it is more likely that we simply internalize that information rather than thinking about it. While it is certainly possible to sit down, think critically about, then fact check everything that Glenn Beck says, that is not what Fox viewers are doing, TDS and Politifact being the exceptions that prove the rule.

    The written word gives the reader space to digest the information at a pace that is comfortable to them, these days it gives an easy way to check the veracity of the information in the article, and makes it relatively simple to figure out who is providing opinion and where the actual facts of the situation are. The written word is a far better place for us to learn about and develop opinions about our political process.

    So, as far as I am concerned, both Fox and MSNBC provide slop. One provides left wing slop and one provides right wing slop. I will not argue with you that one of these buckets of slop contains meat that is more rancid, bile that is more venomous, or milk that is more curdled. One of those buckets of slop smells far worse than the other, but I choose not to eat out of either of them because they are both disgusting buckets of slop.
     
  12. Batman Jones

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    Weak. I thought you were into point by point rebuttals. Guess you don't like actually being challenged, since all you've done here is to repeat your simplistic everybody sucks meme despite many arguments to the contrary.
     
  13. GladiatoRowdy

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    No, you are the one who reduced my argument to "everybody sucks."

    I said that the 24 hour "news" channels suck and that there are other places where journalism, not entertainment, is the primary goal. When compared to most newspapers, many magazines, and even many web sites, the 24 hour "news" channels are sorely lacking as a source of unbiased information. The fact that they are biased (unabashedly so) makes them slop, the fact that Fox takes that bias to a whole nother [sic] level means that they are somewhat more rancid than MSNBC. Still, both are rancid and neither is worth the air over which they are transmitted.
     
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    calling a tea bagger a racist is like saying the color of money is green.
     
  16. mc mark

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    not racist at all...

    TPMDC

    Tea Party Nation: Help retire Rep. Keith Ellison because he's the only Muslim in Congress.

    Tea Party Nation (TPN) sent an email in support of Lynne Torgerson, who is running against Rep. Keith Ellison in Minnesota. In the email, TPN lists the reasons Ellison should be "retired." Among them: "He is the only Muslim member of congress."
     
  17. Steve_Francis_rules

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    To be fair, that's not racism. Typical Republican fear-mongering, certainly. But it's not racism.
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    I wouldn't worry about it. Torgerson will be lucky to get even 20% of the vote and the MN Republican party is only giving lip service to backing her.
     
  19. Rashmon

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    Fixed.
     

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