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California Could Use mar1juana to Help With Economic Issues

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Lil Pun, Mar 13, 2009.

  1. BetterThanEver

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    Face of the Republican party supports legalization.
     
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    Wouldn't help me. I could care less, considering I don't smoke it. I guess I shouldn't be surprised considering prostitutes are on there.
     
  3. weslinder

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    At the rate we're going, tobacco.
     
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    The equipment and commodities required to brew some really exceptional beer are also available at Home Depot and the grocery store. However, just as with growing pot, brewing great beer is more of an art than a science and most people simply buy what they want from the store, just as it would be with pot.
     
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    this is a bunk point. what's stopping most users from growing their own personal 2 or 3 plants now? most people - especially pot heads - just flat out don't want the hassle of having to grow, maintain, and cure their own plants.

    nothing changes in that regard.
     
  6. CHI

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    I think pot heads are the most likely to grow their own plants... especially a small operation such as 2-3 plants.

    The casual user is the one who doesn't want the hassle.
     
  7. GladiatoRowdy

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    Do you even think before posting? Potheads, by and large, buy their pot from a dealer, they do not grow their own. That isn't going to change because of the legal status of mar1juana, in fact the ability to buy legal, high quality products from a store pretty much guarantees that they will buy it there as they would have to do a LOT of work to become the "artist."
     
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    I think one of the biggest hassles is having an illegal plant growing in your house/ on your property year round. Having a personal amount of weed on you is much easier and less riskier.

    I don't know. Like I said before, I am for legalization. Decriminalization would be a great start.
     
  9. CHI

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    A "pothead" to me is someone who smokes every day... a gram or more. Someone who smokes every now and then with friends just to have fun is not a pot head.

    Do you know anyone who smokes weed regularly? Almost every "pothead" tries to grow their own weed. There are lots of people who have small closet grow operations with 3-4 plants. mar1juana is super easy to grow and cultivate as long as you know a little bit of what you're doing. Here in San Francisco, you can even buy clones or fully mature plants on craigslist to get you started.

    Potheads buy from dealers or from cannabis clubs, but also many times grow their own weed. The ones who smoke just for fun every now and then are the ones who only buy from dealers.
     
  10. Rockets2K

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    gotta support this post

    I dig you know a lot andy, Im not disputing that...but take it from someone who has been around "potheads" for many years...they ALL have tried at one point in time to grow their own. The main factor that kept them from doing it constantly was always the threat of being caught.

    The fear of being caught restricted where they could attempt to grow it at..they always had to worry about the wrong person seeing it and reporting them. Add on top of that the belief amongst said "potheads" that the police task forces could tell they were growing from the heat of the grow lamps and/or the jump in electricity usage and you have alot less people growing it than would if it was legal.
     
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    And of course Dems want to legalize just so they can do what the live to do - tax. They don't care about liberty.
     
  12. GladiatoRowdy

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    FWIW, decrim would not be a good situation. Decrim, as I define it, is removing criminal sanctions for personal use, but keeping criminal penalities for sales, which keeps all of the harms of an unregulated system of manufacture and distribution while reaping none of the benefits of taxation.
     
  13. GladiatoRowdy

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    Coming from someone who has known a LOT of potheads given my previous experience and line of work, I believe that if the mainstream potheads (not the slacker stereotype, the professional who likes to smoke pot) would not bother to grow their own if they had a legal supply of extremely high quality product. It would be even more so because many different varieties would be available, giving people the benefit of choice, which they would not have if they grew it themselves.

    Don't get me wrong, there are definitely some people who would grow their own, but based on my experience, the alcohol model would be prevalent. Most people would not invest in the equipment necessary to grow truly high quality mar1juana and, while there would certainly be plenty of ditchweed plots, would not go to the trouble of trying to grow it themselves. I am talking about the average American pot smoker who has a job and does not have time to become the pot "artist."

    There are also plenty of parents who would choose to acquire their pot from a store rather than growing specifically to keep it out of the hands of their children. Especially if the kids are teens or preteens, parents would acquire their pot in a package that could easily be stowed out of the hands of their kids.
     
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    One of the best arguments for scrapping the drug war appeared in a prominent conservative media source, The National Review. One of the seven authors was a fantastic conservative thinker named William F. Buckley, may he rest in peace.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/12feb96/drug.html

    Here is a discussion of the letters National Review received as a result of this article.

    http://www.lycaeum.org/drugwar/buckley1.html

    This is not a Democrat or Republican or liberal or conservative issue. Both major parties have been inordinately stupid on this issue, the only party that is on the correct side of this battle is the Libertarians.
     
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    In the Bay Area, there are mar1juana dispensaries all over the place... taxed and regulated by the state. They have some of the best quality stuff you can buy anywhere, yet at every store, there are books and equipment you can buy to start your own grow. Most stores sell clones for $10-$20 a pop. Some stores offer seminars on how to grow your own weed.

    I think the difference of opinion might have to do with the different mar1juana cultures of Texas and California, where the legislation is being considered. In CA, weed is not taboo, and is not a big deal even to police. Most companies, esp. tech, don't even drug test anymore.

    Again, all potheads try growing weed, some more successful than others... but that doesn't mean they stop going to the store.
     
  16. CHI

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    Also, there is no real "art" to growing mar1juana. It's not a mystical thing.

    All you need is a well ventilated space, good light... and don't over water. The hardest part is curing it properly, and that is easy to learn after a couple tries.

    You might not produce the same level of quality of professionals... but it'll come close enough... and you'll be much more satisfied.
     
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    Yeah great, ask Amsterdam how thats working out for them.... :confused:
     
  18. GladiatoRowdy

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    Exactly.
     
  19. Artesticle

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    How about I ask you?

    A true Conservative can not support the federal prohibition of mar1juana and the spending billions and billions of taxpayer dollars to enforce it.
     
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    Did moon just admit to being raised in a house of bootleggin' activity and having 'studied' drugs for 20 years? It's no wonder I run (actually I just jog) laps around your feeble brain's output.


    HO HO HO
     

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