Cali SCLC president: Black church played a significant role in Prop 8 passing

While that is true, basso has previously stated the nonsensical belief that supporting a constitutional ban on gay marriage, and opposing it are the exact same when it comes to gay rights.

We can find evidence that shows one candidate is for or against the amendment but basso doesn't recognize that difference.

It is that fact that makes a mockery out of his supposed support for same sex marriage. His support is actually less than paper thin, and insulting.

 

Are you actually referring to yourself in the third person? I really didn't think you could get any more douchey, but alas I was wrong.

 

To be fair, I think basso meant Original Post, not Original Poster. But I could be wrong. It is always a risk to extend the benefit of the doubt to basso.

 

Let's call the OP for what it is: a cowardly, transparent attempt at race-baiting.

Let's call something else for what it is: Obama's position on gay marriage is discriminatory and only marginally better than the position taken by the bigotted religious right in this country. Being against gay marriage and supporting a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage ultimately share the same unacceptable implication: homosexual Americans are barred from marrying the ones they love most.

 

"The Black Church" LOL, SCLC doesn't represent the "Black Church", its a political organization and there are many denominations blacks belong to,

just like everyone else.

your musings on race are patronizing frankly

 

It's race-baiting because you are attempting to make a scapegoat out of the black community for California's failure to combat bigotry in its marriage laws.

You're a coward because you will never own up to your true intentions for starting threads like these.

 

first line from wiki

The Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) is an American civil rights organization.

the "coalition that elected obama", lol, if us black folks knew it was so easy we would have done it along time ago

 

As I asked initially, what marital or family troubles caused you to run to the internet last night and start a race-baiting thread? - We can't help you unless you discuss it openly with us.

 

from wiki

SCLC was governed by an elected Board, and established as an organization of affiliates, most of which were either individual churches or community organizations such as the Montgomery Improvement Association (MIA) and Alabama Christian Movement for Human Rights (ACHMR). This organizational form differed from the NAACP and CORE who recruited individuals and formed them into local chapters.

from wiki

SCLC's belief that churches should be involved in political activism against social-ills was also deeply controversial. Many ministers and religious leaders—both black and white—thought that the role of the church was to focus on the spiritual needs of the congregation and perform charitable works to aid the needy. To some of them, the social-political activity of Dr. King and SCLC amounted to dangerous radicalism which they strongly opposed.

See this is a prime example of your patronizing, ask any black person if SCLC is active with their church outside of Atlanta. My dad is chairman of black methodist church in Houston that is over 100 years old. I have never heard him talk about the SCLC.

 

You have shown that you wouldn't know open honest debate if it bit you on your bottom.

You don't have a leg to stand on in your criticism. Unless you start engaging others in open honest debate, don't expect anyone else to play in your little games.

 

It isn't the black church and there is no black church. That's A

There is no black church just as there is no white church. Yes, black churches were and still are the main gathering point for political force for blacks but that's it.

Its no different from white churches, beyond some basic political ideas like fighting for civil rights there isn't some huge organization of black churches.

And saying this organization represents blacks, is about as ridiculous as saying the NAACP still represents blacks. This isn't 1960. That's a pet peeve of mine.

 

Wow. Hate to use a quote that is very overused here, but I can't help it...


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to rimbaud again.


That's as brutal an evisceration as I've ever read in D&D. Dead solid perfect.

 

That is really good.

 

There's no difficult subject here. There is no subject at all. You haven't even made an attempt to provide a context for the article you posted, so what exactly is there for us to debate, honestly or otherwise? That's why it's called race-baiting--you wait for somebody to hook themselves so you can pull them onto your lonely boat of reason-deprived xenophobia.

The issue isn't what the SCLC, or any other organization, represents, but the way in which you represent them in your posts. Your goal is for us to buy into your representations of "the other" so that you can demonize them without ever making an honest attempt to understand them. Instead of asking why the black community is represented as in opposition to civil rights for homosexuals, you ask why the black community is in opposition to civil rights for homosexuals, thereby further contributing to that representation.

"Come on, pgabriel. Why don't you come and take a bite of this nice, juicy nightcrawler?"