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Cade, Green, Kuminga, or Suggs?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mr Woods, Mar 12, 2021.

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Who should the Rockets draft?

  1. Cade Cunningham - 6’7 PG, 220 lbs, 19 yrs old

    414 vote(s)
    68.8%
  2. Jalen Green - 6’5 SG, 180 lbs, 19 yrs old

    61 vote(s)
    10.1%
  3. Jonathan Kuminga - 6’8 SF, 210 lbs, 18 yrs old

    33 vote(s)
    5.5%
  4. Jalen Suggs - 6’4 PG, 205 lbs, 19 yrs old

    50 vote(s)
    8.3%
  5. Other

    44 vote(s)
    7.3%
  1. ApacheWarrior

    ApacheWarrior Member

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    It's annoying watching people speaking on topics while driving around
    in their vehicle; but whoever this guy is, he hits on the points I've made before.

    I've said less than Kobe/MJ but probably better Beal/Zach Lavine

    Green is more fluid than Lavine, JG turns his hips better to give you change
    of direction with greater ease, allows for carving up the paint better than Zach.
    Zach is straight line athletic. Also good; but not better than having both like
    MJ and Kobe did.

    Green is not as good a shooter as Beal; but Beal lacks the hops that both
    Green and Zach Lavine possess. Beal is much like Lavine in the sense
    his hips are more for straight line dunking. Tighter hips restricting his fluidity.
    Not to say Green can't get to the level of shooting as Beal. I see Beal more as
    a Ray Allen pure shooter.

    This individual mentions maybe Green growing to 6'7"......I'm guessing more
    to 6'6" is his realistic ceiling. Who knows David Robinson grew like 6 inches
    after highschool? Or he may not grow taller at all......but I still see Jalen's
    body as his boy body undergoing some maturation. Jordan got to
    205 pounds, so Jalen has to add some muscle to absorb contact
    to get to Jordan's level of drives and finish.

    Harden is a different player. Harden is a tank that uses his body to absorb
    contact, draw a foul, finish. Great shooter in the ranks of Ray Allen, Beal,
    Mike Miller, Reggie Miller. Harden ability to shoot at all three levels,
    of near rim/mid-range/3-pt's makes Harden special. Add good free throw
    shooter on top of that and you have a super star.

    Jalen has the 3 levels of shooting and will carve up the paint with drives,
    will get fouled, will hit free throws, will get dunks........just a matter of how
    well he absorbs contact and finishes. Bucket and the foul. Both Kobe and
    MJ excelled at absorbing the contact and getting bucket and the free throw.

    How much muscle/weight can Jalen put on? I'm guessing he will get up to
    195 pounds by age 20 to 21. Team that has him will have a very special player.
     
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  2. dmoneybangbang

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    Right, he grades out as an elite scorer who played against significantly better competition than Mobley, who is supposedly an elite defender.
     
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  3. cheke64

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    I like Suggs more that Green now. Not going to be persuaded just because Green is more athletic. Suggs played 2 sports throughout his life, now he gets to focus on just one and that will be scary.
     
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  4. MaxRider

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    If we already have our stars I would take Suggs over Green. Let's face it. Wood and MPJ have talent but they are not star. If we get top 3 picks we are trying to draft the one with the highest potential to turn into a star.
     
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  5. D-rock

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    Rockets do not have an issue with scoring points.

    Their issue is stopping opposing teams from scoring points.

    Again, I like Jalen Green. I just dont like him more than Mobley.
     
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  6. dmoneybangbang

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    BPA for me. It’s more likely the Rockets will look radically different in 3 years so I wouldn’t be drafting based on what this current can or can’t do.
     
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  7. D-rock

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    BPA is Cade or Mobley then.

     
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  8. Bono

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    Couldn't the Rockets use picks to get into the lottery even if they miss out?
     
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  10. dmoneybangbang

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    Not for me.

    Cade is the only player that really excites me. Lots of questions about all the other picks.
     
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  11. Verbal Christ

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    ROX were 24th in the league in PPG. Too many times the offense stalls out because there is no alpha scorer. We need a scorer just as bad as a good defender. Cade fits the bill both ways at 1 but if he's gone and the pick is 2-4 Green would help out more than Mobley IMO.
     
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    Again the Mobley that you like won't be seen for a few seasons. Green will be a starter from day 1. Plus when you have a chance at an elite scorer you just cant pass them up. Every team is looking for elite scoring.
     
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    Rockets need help in every single facet of the game

    27th in offensive efficiency…27th in defensive efficiency

    28th in FG percentage and 3 point percentage
     
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    There's absolutely no question about Green. He will be a star SG. Sooner rather than later. Even more so than Cade.
     
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    Thanks for the breakdown. I know these two are two different players but how does Green compare with the likes of Devin Booker?
     
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    Mobley going to the basket is very hard to stop. Defensively, Not sure why he didn’t have an impact against Gonzaga. I still rather take Mobley over Suggs.
     
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  17. dmoneybangbang

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    Maybe. :)
     
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    Green, I think, is much more athletic. Shooting wise I think he may be equal or slightly better than Booker.
     
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  19. D-rock

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    In 1995, 4 players were taken before 6'11 Kevin Garnett due to concerns over his rail thin frame and inexperience.

    Joe Smith and Antonio McDyess were prototypical NBA power forward size and power.

    Jerry Stackhouse was considered an "elite" offensive player.

    KG is now the epitome of a modern big and went on to become best player in 90's with 15 All Stars, 12 All Defense, MVP, DPOY and NBA champion.

    Not saying Mobley is KG but even the NBA pros F'ed up that draft.

    Not me, I love the 7 foot unicorns, especially if defense is their forte.
     
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  20. D-rock

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    No problem.

    We are usually on opposite sides of an opinion.
     

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