Its like that guy at the beginning of "Snatch" said. "Its just a story. A good story, but just a story." The Bible. One big fake story.
One big fake story! Most of it is a history book you moron. So the Jews were never enslaved in Egypt? Yeshua wasn't crucified on a piece of wood, There was no King David who ever ruled Israel, and I suppose Paul didn't go around preaching the Gospel and writing letters to the church in Rome. C'mon Nomar! Get your facts straight. You may not believe Jesus fed 5,000 people with a couple loaves of bread and a few fish or that he rose from the dead, but The Bible is hardly one big, fake story. I believe cannabalism was common in Fiji up until a little over 100 years ago. Today, Fijians are some of the nicest people around. Just don't piss 'em off!
Max, I am not making this up. All we can go by is what was written then - and many of the founding Church fathers, and even those who were not so mainstream took it literally. Keep in mind this was a time of ritual sacrifice and libations, etc...it was a different world - Christ makes the transformation literal. As far as modern Christians....my wife was raised Catholic, so I take her word for it...I have known other- non Catholics - who argued for its literalness. That is what I have to go off of. For most protestants, sure, it is symbolic. Even still, though, it is symbolic canibalism. Mostly, though, I just threw that out as a joke... right1, Try not to let the beliefs of others, no matter how bluntly stated, get you riled up. Just fyi, though, there are plenty of historical inaccuracies in the Bible as well (the "tower of babel - really the Ziggarat of the temple of Marduk - was never destroyed nor was Babylon itself) as what we know to be correct. So, both sides have an argument.
Sorry to be so hostile, Nomar. I just don't understand how you end up with, "The Bible is one big, fake story" out of a thread about cannibalism. Just trying to help, that's all. If you're misinformed, you're not a moron, you're just misinformed. The Bible discusses many different things. Mainly, it describes the history of a certain people, the Jews, between the time of a great flood (like what happened after the last ice age ended and ocean levels rose dramatically around 10,000 years ago) and up until a short time after the death of the guy who everyone followed around and his friend Paul's revelation about how the Babylon empire will fall down and peace shall reign for 1000 years. Jesus, you may think, may not have been born unto a virgin and made blind men see. But, he most certainly walked around present day Israel preaching the same things you can read about in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. And Solomon, King David, Caesar, The rest of the kings, queens, priests and government officials mentioned in The Bible are all people who actually lived on Earth.
Rimbaud, it has nothing to do with his beliefs. The statement, "The Bible is one big, fake story", is a false one. Sure there are things written in The Bible that could be fake or fictional. I never said I believed in the Immaculate Conception, the Ressurection, the parting of the Red Sea or any of the miracles that Jesus was claimed to have performed. I was just trying to set the record straight, that's all. A lot of people have many preconceived misconceptions about The Bible. I will say, however, I do believe in the Immaculate Reception.
Yeah, sorry, that is basically what I meant, don't get upset for the way he says things...not for the beliefs themselves. Anyway, I see that it is no big deal so all is well.
Soylent Green is people!!! Some people I have heard after the birth of their baby will actually eat the placenta for either spiritual or animilistic reasons or both. Could this be considered cannibalism?
I watched a documentary on TLC or Discovery or something and after the birth, the parents took the placenta, prepared it and served placenta pate' to their guests. The guests knew about it as well. I changed the channel out of disgust, but not before I heard that they might be charged with cannibalism...
...hey..i was planning on doing my own work.. i just thought it would be an interesting topic to bring up... i dont think im going to mention Christianity.. i dont know why but it seems like everyone in my whole class is a religion basher, and i dont really have the energy to get in that type of argument with them. thanks for the help
just onnnne biiig faaake story. just kidding dude. Anyway, a lot of it is bull****, and a lot of the people who interpret it all bull****ters. Its a lot more obvious if youre on the outside looking in on religions however...
What's a lot more obvious? Yes, a lot of people are bull****ers. A lot of people who interpret it are bull****ters. A lot of people who interpret it aren't. I'd like to know what part of it is bull****, though. The Ressurection? The birth? The miracles? Or just the whole big story? Being on the ouside, or maybe the inside, I don't know, I'd like to know what the obvious bull**** is about Hindus and Buddhists, Rastas and others. Sorry, I thought Falcons Talon and I had just made an interesting point about ethical cannibalism- the topic of this thread!
Some religions are so ego-driven. We are the correct religion. Everybody else, is damned for eternity. Only 144000 people will go to heaven. What if somebody is born in a country where Christianity isn't the accepted religion? Tough ****ing luck. You go to hell.
How the hell does that make the Bible "bull****"? Its some stupid ass people of every religion who give their own religion a bad name. I highly doubt Jesus, Krishna, Mohammed, Moses, etc. ever said that "you go to hell" if you are not on my side. Just cause some idiots want to believe that does not make an entire religion "bull****". If you are not religious, more power to you, but to call any religion "bull****" is just plain ****ing stupid!
Well, I've been to a cannibalism museum in Borneo, so I can provide some insight..... Borneo, for example, has cannibals that work among and live with the common public; it's not as if they're hiding around corners waiting to prey on unsuspecting people. I would guess that some continue what they consider a venerable practice because of some historical religious and or spiritual tie to their ancestors.....it's not like human flesh is their means of sustenance......separate tribes who are well aware of the possible consequences hunt each other from time to time. As bestial a practice as it is, though they do go to greater lengths in 'cleaning' their prey than most would think, it is possible to form a tenable argument for it. If you're against it, and I don't know if this was exclusive to Bornean cannibals, you could point to the cruel ways in which they discard of the dead body. A kind of sugar based product is placed on the cooked corpse......insects would then do the rest.....the head would be shrunken through a pretty elaborate process as well. I wouldn't use religion to condemn cannibalism....too non-inclusive and too much of a gruesome past involving human sacrifice.
Words attributed to Christ in the Bible... Matthew 23: 29-33: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Matthew 12:32: And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. (Matthew 13:41-42) Passages such as these (and there are plenty more) are the reasoning behind Christians claiming non-believers will go to hell - they didn't just make it up.
