CA Supreme Court Rules Illegal Immigrants can Have In-State Tuition

Texas

 

They are in the system and the system accommodates them. I would not extend those accommodations to those not in the system because it would potentially be unfair. If somebody wants to make use of our public services as a citizen would, they should be a citizen.

Again this is not an axiom or anything and it's not the judge's fault for making his ruling based on the law as written. I just think it's counter-intuitive at best and outrageous at worst to extend benefits to anyone outside of the populace that directly subsidizes them. Even if only sales and property taxes paid for the schools I'd still be offended by the idea, because it still emboldens folks to avoid honest participation in the society - that's a bad precedent that is ripe for abuse.

Really, what you bring up above is actually a seperate issue entirely.

 

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

 

Well, we just let them come over here, without trying to stop them and they take everything from us. Leaving us poor and defenseless.
Signed,

Spoiler

 

I look at the Batman Jones incident when he was in Holland. BJ was not a citizen and they did not provide him with anything other than the most basic care. You can't ask for much more than that. If they had taken complete care of him at the expense of the Dutch taxpayers, how is that fair? What did he do to deserve that care?

 

Yes, Cali is having all kinds of budget problems, but I don't think that's a good excuse for being short-sighted. They have millions of illegals who won't be going away, so the state state needs to do something with them. They can save a penny now by disenfranchising illegals, but they'll pay a pound later.

The budget crisis is a separate problem. The whole population needs to shoulder that burden. If you shift that burden onto a particular defenseless subgroup, you'll get trouble later.

 

I believe a good number of state schools have an international tuition rate that's higher than in-state or even domestic out-of-state.

 

Correct but immaterial.

 

Huh, as far as I remember F-1 students can get in-state tuition as long as they are in California for more than one year and pay income tax. I don't have the code with me right now, but I think that's the case.

 

If I read it correctly, there are two laws here. One is the California law giving tuition breaks to whoever attend high school in California for 3 years. The other is the federal law prohibits giving benefits to illegal immigrants not available to US citizens based on state residency. Federal law trumps state law b/c of the supreme clause, but the CA supreme court rules this particular state law complies with the federal law b/c state residency is not a contingency and therefore the federal law doesn't really control.
So which is it are you fighting about? The CA law, federal law, or the CA court's ruling?

 

Ok, maybe Texas is different from California.

 

Yeah, that's the key. I would rather have them in school than out there on the street doing illegal stuff and pay for police protection. Not giving them tuition breaks isn't going to have them leave. Tax payer money for state resident, yada yada, that's all moot if we have a illegal immigration problem to begin with.

 

Perhaps you should start all your posts like this or make it your signature?

 

As an aside do you know for a fact that you can't?

BTW virtually any American can live in Mexico full time on easily renewable 6 mos tourist visas. My parents moved there and put my bros and sisters in Mexican schools w.o. additional charges, but I think they might have been private schools.

 

This is a good law. Funny how some who proclaim states rights so strongly at times don't at others.

The reality is that these folks will be staying here. Sorry immigrant phobes. As an older Anglo I want the folks paying my social security to be educated and productive. Sorry social security haters it is here to stay, too.

AS noted these folks pay taxes. How do you prove that an individual US citizen pays enough to support the public schools. Sorry public school haters. The public schools are here to stay too

I've been watching the ABC News series on China and how the millions of young hungry workers flocking to the cities are one of the major factors making their economy explode. Similarly the millions from Latin America help our economy.