One more thing, Hayes is not the best rebounder we have now. Landry grabs a rebound every 2.6 minutes. Yao grabs a rebound every 3.41 minutes. Hayes one rebound every 3.53 minutes. Scola one rebound every 4.08 minutes. Good rebounding Hayes, although not spectacular it's enough for you to warm the bench on a NBA team. Scola's rebounding is solid for a starter and Landry is out of the world(knowing it's in limited minutes).
Yes, and Boozer did the most damage. If Hayes is so good defensively, we might have put him on Boozer ya think?
Yea Landry is a beast and even he is not starting so that tells me something right there. I would not be suprised if Morey traded Hayes.
no.you want yao to guard okur at the 3 point line? at the time we did not have other options but now i feel that our pf position is good
Also Scola has drawed more charges than Hayes, infact Scola is one of the league leaders in drawing charges. That is a sign of defense you think?
Yes I would want Yao to guard Okur at the 3 point line, instead of watching him get outquicked and butchered alive by Carlos Boozer, while a near 7 footer Okur shot 3's over the head of a 6-6 midget pf Chuck Hayes. Call me crazy but that is how I feel bro!
Hayes is great, but this had a lot more to do with the offense needed against a team like GS. Also, if there's just one thing I had to say I loved about Adelman, it's his balls of steel when it comes to the rotations. He shows much more flexibility and willingness to try new things than JVG ever did.
Did you not observe how tenuous our defense was against Golden State in the fourth quarter when Yao was guarding Al Harrington? Adelman has to resort to a zone down the stretch to prevent them from stealing the game. Asking Yao to be a perimeter defender is not a sustainable defensive strategy. You completely ignore the other aspects of defense like making defensive rotations, rebounding, and interior defense/shot-blocking. All of that is weakened by moving Yao away from the basket as a defender. There's no way Adelman does it, even if he had an all-world PF defender like Kevin Garnett.
Haye's defense is vastly underrated here. Aldelman usually doesn't Hayes in 4th quarter, what we got? Consistent 4th quarter collapses because opponents score 30+ in one quarter. When Hayes is on the floor, that rarely happens.
it is interesting to note that yof's somehow poke their nose in just about every thread. how Hayes DNP ends up being it was hayes's fault in the playoffs is a head scratcher. Reminds of that commercial they are running now during the games, "HOW COME YOU DIDN'T THINK OF THAT?"
It's arguable that in the Utah series, making Yao stay inside guarding Boozer deteriorated our interior D, since Boozer scored a ton in the post anyway, but also deteriorated our perimeter D, since Okur could shoot over Hayes. On the other hand, if we have a defensive presence inside along with Yao, we don't need to worry too much on moving Yao out. The fact that we insisted on making Yao stay in the post despite him got exploited by Boozer there, shows that Chuck Hayes isn't much of an interior defensive presence to begin with. It goes back to the main theme, Hayes isn't as much as a defensive player to justify him starting long term. .
Guys are talking about how Hayes was a great defender against post players, and isn't playoffs performance a gauge of defense? why are you dragging Yofs into the discussion? That's a real head scratcher on your part.
Wow, let's not get too carried away here can we? If you think Hayes can anchor a defense, I'm just speechless.
There's no sensible way to argue that it deteriorated out perimeter defense. Chuck is vastly superior moving and defending on the perimeter than Yao. It's not even worth discussion. And when you remove a 7'6 shot blocking presence from the paint, that will hurt your interior D. Chuck would have done a better job in limiting Boozer's scoring one on one, but he can't make up for the intimidation factor Yao provides around the basket against the Jazz team as a whole. I think Yao is capable of doing a better job on Boozer and being a shot-blocker/intimidator in the paint. But asking him to play out on the perimeter is just ludicrous. Other than the fact that having a 7'6 guy with serious mobility issues be one of your perimeter defenders is a recipe for disaster?
Almost Perfect answer. I would only add props to Chuck for always leaving everything on the floor. And while his starting days may be numbered it is not for lack of effort. He is the epitome of 110%. Also hats off to him on the bench... you could see disappointment written all over his face but it didn't stop him from cheering for his teammates.
Not necessary anchor, but very important. It's just like when Scola 's jumpers are falling, you can't say he is the center of the offense, but still very important for a few more points. At this moment, it's all about match ups and consistency. Once Scola's defense improved to a certain degree, then starting him all the time becomes a good option.
Probably right, but it's not out of the realm of possibility ... http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=261205010
Not sure whether Hayes should sit out. But Scola and Landry definitely need more minutes. One thing I am sure is that Hayes will not improve his game no matter how many minutes he get per night, but Scola and Landry will. They deserve some minutes from Hayes.
