www.NBATalk.com What a dill-hole. Hey, Byron, the Nets are 14-32, is that "the way to play basketball?" (Not to mention that's a really ugly way to treat his son.) ------------------ "Breaking up is hard to do...[with] everyone trying to make it a parting befitting all the professionalism that came before. Trying to find that Olajuwon graceful fade one more time." Scott Howard-Cooper (Sacramento Bee, ESPN.com)
Scott was right to chastise his son. Williams is not someone to be modeling your game after. ------------------ snap crackle pop
I totally agree with Byron. Kids need to learn the fundamantals and once they learn the fundamanetals then they may want to get some of the more exciting plays down.
Well, I think he's a jerk. How old is his son anyway? ------------------ My dream job is to be a Houston Rockets towel boy.
I really don't see anything wrong with what he did. I think it was a wakeup call to his kid. Hopefully it worked. ------------------ "No Brain Grant, no trade." -- Typos are a b**** as ZRB is holding Rocket trades hostage while he seeks a brain. Conspiracy theorists say this would explain why Hakeem has yet to be traded...
The problem is that Scott treats his son, players, and probably anyone he has authority over the same way. You called it "discipline," but for a parent to walk away because the child is doing something the parent dis-agrees with is -wrong-. In fact, it's an un-healthy, in-effective way to address any problem. I stand by my initial impression: he's a dill-hole. ------------------ "Breaking up is hard to do...[with] everyone trying to make it a parting befitting all the professionalism that came before. Trying to find that Olajuwon graceful fade one more time." Scott Howard-Cooper (Sacramento Bee, ESPN.com)
If his actions got the idea across that his son needs to do things differently, then it was the right thing to do. ------------------
which jason Williams was he talking about??? ------------------ CUT Tino These Heaves are just getting Ridiculous!
It is absolutely his right as a parent to discipline his son, and it's his responsibility to help his son develope into a better person. If he had taken his son home and beaten him, that would be something else. But he clearly got his point across, and obviously his son respects him. His only mistake will be if he doesn't praise his son when he sees improvement, or if he refuses to listen to his son's wishes. I don't see that here, and I think it was a great way to make a point. ------------------ "There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and STATISTICS..." - Mark Twain -
He told his son it was sickening to watch him play, how the hell is that right? If he just says that his son isn't doing it right and offers pointers thats one thing. But to say it sickens him to watch his son play ball, no that is not right. ------------------ The Rockets will be the NBA champions. Believe.
If a concert Pianist heared his son HACKING UP Brahms. . . what do you think he would say/think of a Guitarist whose son is playing like he beating a cat I think sometimes we sugar coat sh*T for kids too much . . they tougher than they look Rocket River ------------------
It's not how I'd have done it, but he's his own person and will parent the way he wants. I'm fine with that. ------------------ RealGM Rockets Draft Obligations Summary Gafford Art Artisan
My respect for Byron Scott just went way up... There's nothing wrong with discipline like that. ------------------ "There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and STATISTICS..." - Mark Twain -
The quote said nothing about respect. Scott: "Because it was sickening to watch you play."...He has to live in my house, so I got through to him quick. I wonder how effective this approach has been/will be with the Nets. ------------------ "Breaking up is hard to do...[with] everyone trying to make it a parting befitting all the professionalism that came before. Trying to find that Olajuwon graceful fade one more time." Scott Howard-Cooper (Sacramento Bee, ESPN.com)
Ya know, he has ridden Kenyon pretty hard. I think Byron will pull a Patino if he cannot right the ship by next year. He will lose his players with that type of treatment. ------------------
I think it's good discipline, that's what the problem is today. People get upset when a coach or parent is hard on their kid/player then they try to make them better, and then wonders why the kid grows up to be Rod Strickland, or Isiah Rider, people with NO respect for authority WHAT SO EVER! You say he treats his kids, players etc. the same? Well if his kid wants to be a basketball player he is going to have to learn how a coach is going to treat you. You don't know everything he said, I seriously doubt he said that and it ended there. I'm pretty sure he worked with him and taught him what he was doing wrong. You don't have the kind of career and success that he has, both as a player with his championship rings, and as a coach at Sacramento without knowing what you are doing. And don't harp on New Jersey's record, injuries have decimated that team. I respect Scott a ton more then I have before! ------------------ No sleep and no trade info make RocksMillenium something, something! [This message has been edited by RocksMillenium (edited January 31, 2001).]
Sure, we can elevate sports figures to a higher pedestal -- justify or give reason for their less than heroic behaviors. But I based my impression of Scott from what was written in the article -and- his treatment of the Nets players. To cut down your own players (or son) in the media is just wrong. I wonder how long before NJ gets a new coach. ------------------ "Breaking up is hard to do...[with] everyone trying to make it a parting befitting all the professionalism that came before. Trying to find that Olajuwon graceful fade one more time." Scott Howard-Cooper (Sacramento Bee, ESPN.com)
We all know the media doesn't usually give us the whole picture. Since I know nothing about how Byron Scott raises his kids, or anything about his son, I don't think it's wise to form an opinion. At face value, however, I'd imagine there might be better ways to get a point across. I don't think it's an issue of discipline as much as one of communication. ------------------
He should of said something different but he was right to tell him that playing with fundamentals is the key. ------------------ Ceo of the Walt Williams fan club. Web site coming soon atheistalliance.org
Come on, now people are dragging this past the point of discipline and calling the guy a borderline bad father. Different people have different way of discipline. What way has a mistreated his players? And before you mention what he is doing with Kenyon Martin, Bob Huggins did the same thing. It's called tough love, and I'm pretty sure if you asked his son he would tell you that. You act like that's the way he treats his son all the time. I can't say I know everything about the situation, I'll just have to play devil's advocate. Maybe his son wants to be a basketball player, so Scott is treating his player AROUND THE BASKETBALL COURT how a coach would treat him. Maybe his son likes that. Afterall this IS the media reporting it and they didn't give the entire picture. But you're overreacting by assuming he is a bad father that treats his son like that constantly, and that he is a bad coach and wondering when New Jersey will fire him. Calm down. ------------------ Dream a deadly Dream. . .
