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Buyout targets ?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by snowconeman22, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. thedude077

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    Is Jeff Green available, or is he staying with the Wizards?
     
  2. Fantasma Negro

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    Dude is instant offense, can play three positions and has great size, I'd bring him back in a heartbeat
     
  3. J.R.

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    http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/25952468/projecting-impactful-nba-buyout-market

    The second transaction season started when the trade deadline expired at 3:01 p.m. ET on Thursday.

    As we saw last year in Philadelphia, the buyout market can change the course of a team's season. The additions of Ersan Ilyasova and Marco Belinelli cemented the Philadelphia 76ers' rotation for the 2018 playoffs.

    Before taking a look at the teams with rosters spots, what players could be become available and the best free agents not in the NBA, we first need to explain the exact science of the buyout.

    The buyout

    Several factors can lead to a player reducing his salary for the opportunity to sign with a new team, including playing time and leaving a rebuilding team for a contender. The key to any buyout is making sure there is a landing spot for your client. A player should never leave significant money on the table without a team waiting on deck to sign him.

    For a player to be eligible for the playoffs, the waiver must take place by 11:59 p.m. ET on March 1. Players signed to a 10-day contract are also playoff eligible, even if the contract expires after March 1.

    Buyout and free agent options

    Enes Kanter
    Disgruntled for most of the season because of a lack of playing time and role, Kanter got his wish when New York waived him right after the deadline.
    Despite averaging a double-double this season (14 PPG, 10.5 RPG), Kanter fits only specific roles on playoff teams, and that will have to be communicated in any negotiations. Teams can't afford Kanter becoming a disruption in the locker room if he is not part of the rotation.

    Robin Lopez (Chicago)
    What happens with DeAndre Jordan in New York could dictate if Lopez's representatives approach Bulls management about a buyout. If Jordan is on the open market, that means one fewer team -- like the Golden State Warriors -- will need a center.

    Despite Chicago being in another rebuilding season, Lopez will not take a buyout unless he has a roster spot secured. Lopez has $4.9 million left on his contract.

    Markieff Morris
    Morris would be the top name on the buyout list, had he not suffered a neck injury in December. The timeline for his recovery was set at six weeks, which means he would be cleared to return to full basketball activities after the All-Star break.

    While there is interest among playoff teams, there will be a two-step process before a team signs him. First, he will need full medical clearance. Second, a team probably will put him through a workout to check his physical condition.

    Morris has appeared in 19 playoff games, averaging 11.4 PPG.

    Zach Randolph
    The veteran was waived by Dallas after being acquired in a trade. Because Randolph has not played since March 19, there is no guarantee a team would sign him without a workout.

    Signed to a two-year, $24 million contract in 2017, the 37-year old had averaged 14.5 points with a PER of 17.4 before the Kings shifted gears to focus on their young players.

    Randolph has played in 70 postseason games in his career.

    Carmelo Anthony
    We are in uncharted territory when a future Hall of Famer and 24-PPG career scorer is looking for employment in mid-February. Waived by the Bulls on Feb. 1, Anthony will be on his fifth team in seven months when he signs a new contract. The logical choice is the Lakers now that they have created a roster spot.

    Because of a clause in his buyout with Atlanta, any additional salary earned with a new team will be deducted from the $25.5 million owed by the Hawks.

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    Henry Ellenson (Detroit)
    Troy Daniels (Phoenix)
    Dragan Bender (Phoenix)

    Free agents broken down by position

    Point guards
    Ron Baker
    Wade Baldwin IV
    Lorenzo Brown
    Michael Carter-Williams
    Mario Chalmers
    Walt Lemon Jr.
    Shelvin Mack
    Andrew Harrison
    Milos Teodosic

    Wings
    Arron Afflalo
    John Jenkins
    Darius Johnson-Odom
    Ben McLemore
    Jodie Meeks
    Daniel Hamilton
    Kendrick Nunn
    Brandon Paul
    Cam Reynolds
    Nik Stauskas
    Nick Young
    Zach Lofton

    Power forward
    Quincy Acy
    Tyler Davis
    Terrence Jones
    Jameel Warney
    Okaro White
    Derrick Williams

    Centers
    Marcin Gortat
    Dakari Johnson
    Salah Mejri
    Eric Moreland
    Brandan Wright
    Tyler Zeller

    On the fence

    DeAndre Jordan (New York)
    There is some financial irony to Jordan opting out of his contract with the Clippers, signing with the Mavericks in July and eventually getting traded to New York. On the surface, opting out of $24.1 million to sign a $22.9 million contract makes little sense. However, because there's no state taxes in Texas, the lost $1.2 million could be earned back. Now Jordan is in New York with $8.9 million left on his contract, facing one of the higher state tax rates.

    Despite the Knicks having little interest right now in a buyout, the former All-Star is the best available if circumstances change in the next three weeks. Jordan ranks No. 2 in defensive real plus-minus among centers.

    Unlikely to get bought out

    Jeremy Lin, Dewayne Dedmon and Vince Carter (Atlanta)
    It would be easy to put these three players on the buyout list with the Hawks out of playoff contention, but there is still value for each player being on the roster past March 1. For starters, it would send a terrible message to a locker room that features a rookie head coach in Lloyd Pierce and a young roster still learning how to win. Lin and Carter have proved to be valuable mentors on and off the court. Dedmon is on pace to start 100 games in his two seasons in Atlanta and could be back as a free agent.

    Plus, there is a financial incentive with Lin ($750K) and Dedmon ($900K) both on pace to reach bonuses in their contracts. A buyout for either player would see the bonuses voided.

    JR Smith (Cleveland)
    A change in the 2017 CBA has left Cleveland with a valuable asset in Smith. Because his full 2019-20 salary ($15.7 million) can be used in a trade until July 1, Smith probably will be on the roster past March 1. Only $3.7 million of Smith's contract is protected if he is waived before his deal becomes fully guaranteed in July.

    For example. Smith can be traded to Brooklyn after the season for Allen Crabbe and a first-round pick (via Denver). The move would help Brooklyn clear $18.5 million in room and allow the Cavaliers to receive draft compensation. Under the old rules, only the protected salary total would have counted for matching purposes in trades.

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    Justin Holiday (Memphis)
    Derrick Rose (Minnesota)
    Anthony Tolliver (Minnesota)
    Julius Randle (New Orleans)

    Teams with an open roster spot

    Out of the currently projected playoff teams, 11 have available roster spots to chase key rotation players such as DeAndre Jordan. Then there are lottery-bound teams -- like the New York Knicks -- who will be scouring the G League, using their open roster spots for long-term additions.

    Teams can sign a player to a salary greater than the minimum exception if they have other exceptions available, which are listed below. The Dallas Mavericks, Memphis Grizzlies and Washington Wizards also have the disabled player exception (DPE) to sign or claim a player who has one year left on his contract. The exception expires on March 11. Starting Jan. 10, each available exception (except for the DPE) began to prorate.

    The current playoff teams
    BKN (1 spot; minimum exception)
    BOS (1 spot; minimum exception; signing a player would cost Boston $1.50 for every $1 spent)
    CHA (1 spot; minimum, partial midlevel, bi-annual and trade exceptions; Charlotte is $3.4 million below the luxury tax)
    GSW (1 spot; minimum exception; signing a player would cost Golden State $3.75 for every $1 spent)
    HOU (3 spots; minimum, taxpayer midlevel and trade exceptions; the Rockets are $635K below the luxury tax)
    IND (1 spot; minimum exception)
    MIA (2 spots; minimum exception and taxpayer midlevel; signing a player would cost Miami $1.50 for every $1 spent)
    MIL (1 spot; minimum exception; the Bucks are $965K below the luxury tax)
    OKC (2 spots, minimum, taxpayer midlevel and trade exception; signing a player would cost OKC $4.75 for every $1 spent)
    PHI (0 spots, room midlevel and minimum exception; Philadelphia would need to waive a player to create a roster spot)
    POR (1 spot; partial taxpayer, minimum and trade exceptions; signing a player would cost Portland $1.75 for every $1 spent)
    TOR (4 spots; taxpayer midlevel, trade and minimum exceptions; signing a player would cost Toronto $3.25 for every $1 spent; has one active 10-day contract)

    On the outside of the top eight
    ATL (2 spots; minimum exception)
    CHI (1 spot; room midlevel and minimum exception)
    DAL (1 spot; room midlevel and minimum exception)
    LAL (1 spot; partial room midlevel and minimum exception)
    MIN (1 spot; partial midlevel, bi-annual, minimum and trade exceptions)
    NYK (3 spots; partial midlevel and minimum exception; has one active 10-day contract)
    PHX (1 spot; partial room midlevel and minimum exception; has one active 10-day contract)
    SAC (1 spot; room midlevel and minimum exception; has one active 10-day contract)
    WAS (1 spot; room midlevel and minimum exception; has one active 10-day contract)

    Signed with a new team

    Austin Rivers (Houston)
    Kenneth Faried (Houston)
    Tyson Chandler (Lakers)
    Wesley Matthews (Indiana)
    Wayne Ellington (Detroit)
     
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  4. chievous minniefield

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    Troy Daniels, please.
     
  5. elmotsangtt

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    Michael Beasley
     
  6. saleem

    saleem Contributing Member

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    He played well in parts but he was a black hole. I think he showed more improvement with the Knicks by fitting in as a team player.
     
  7. bj3175

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    did Brandan Wrights knee ever get fixed
     
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  8. D-rock

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    You heard Vonleh being bought out?
     
  9. eman

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    Troy Daniels fits our scheme better than anyone out there.
     
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  10. D-rock

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    No D, black hole on O and loves midrange game too much.

    Still good rebounder.
     
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  11. D-rock

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    If Bennett an option then Bruno should have been option too.

    If Rockets want O only big, then prefer Frank the Tank or Moose. Both have better work ethic, hustle and grit than Bennett.

    If Rockets want an Anthony, then prefer Anthony Randolph.
     
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  12. whiskeyred

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    *Insert scrub name to save us
     
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  13. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    Did Troy Daniels get bought out?

    Regardless, he wouldn't get regular minutes here. The only position where they are real minutes to grab are at the "big" as a 4. A backup guard would just be a spot player at this point.
     
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    I wouldn't mind Mejri. He would give us actual size at the 5 for a back up. I really dislike him, he acts like a POS on the court, but he fills a role.
     
  15. J.R.

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    Salah re-signed with the Mavs.

    DeAndre Jordan will remain in New York for the rest of this season because the Knicks aren't willing to buy him out, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post. It was reported the other day, but this serves as more confirmation that Jordan will be a Knick for the rest of the season. The team wants him to mentor rookie Mitchell Robinson, which they have already seen positive impacts from, and they also like his relationship with Kevin Durant, who DJ tried to recruit to the Clippers a few years ago.

    https://nypost.com/2019/02/10/deandre-jordan-is-a-knicks-teacher-and-kevin-durant-bait/

    Being a Mitchell mentor and potential Durant suitor may be fine with Jordan, but it sounds as if the big man from Houston doesn’t have a choice and is trying to suppress those feelings.

    The 10-45, league-worst Knicks aren’t willing to waive the veteran so he can seek a playoff contender. The Knicks would have to do so by March 1 to make the two-time First Team All-Defense selection eligible for the postseason.

    “That didn’t happen,” Jordan said. “I’m here. I got traded here. They wanted me to be here so I’m excited to play here . That’s what I’m focused on. I’m not focused on anything else right now.
     
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    Great, we went from one step away to two.
     
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    I’m honestly not too excited about this season anymore since DM & Tilman decided to go the luxury tax saving route rather than the big splash route and rightfully so.
    I think next season is going to define if Tilman is serious about winning championships and if Harden will ever win one.
    Next season should be focused on signing the guys we have brought in; Faried, Rivers, & Shumpert.
    The focus should also be trading for someone like Kevin Love who can help Clint on the boards. I know there’s plenty of other players who could probabaly do just as good a job for less but he’s just someone that always comes to mind when I think of a typical MDA player who fits his system to a T.
    Also trading for or signing a SF should be a huge focus this offseason. I’m not sure how the money would work as of now but being able to have a 3&D wing over 6’6 that can defend and switch would be great. Players that come to mind are guys like:
    Jae Crowder, Robert Covington, Harrison Barnes, etc.
    Can’t keep going into the season making statements like “we don’t build our championship team in May”. I think all fans understand that and also understand that if you’re trying to be a #1 seed and a chance at GS than you most certainly have to try and build the best team possible for the start of the season so that during the mid season you’re not relying on buyouts and trades.
    Last season DM did a great job putting a very good team together and ended up doing nothing at the trade deadline except add 2 buyouts in Johnson & Wright who didn’t even play much or eventually let go. With all that said Houston ended up the #1 seed & were a hamstring away from winning it all.
    If we are going to make any noise next season I think our lineup SHOULD look something similar to this:
    Chris Paul
    James Harden
    Robert Covington
    Kevin Love
    Clint Capela

    Austin Rivers
    Gerald Green
    PJ Tucker
    Kenneth Faried

    G-League
    Vincent Edwards
    Isaiah Hartenstein

    Traded:
    Nene
    Gary Clark
    Eric Gordon
     
  18. riko

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    If Randolph was healthy he would be a good fit.
     
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    Omar Cassipi?

    He is a 4 who can shoot a bit and has a little size going for him.
     
  20. batkins

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    Could Courtney Lee be potentially bought out? He’s not in the rotation with Dallas right now, which is odd...
     

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