Financially after this year, Butler/Haywood makes more sense unless Washington wants 'young assets' in return... Iggy/Dalembert fills the roster holes for this year (Scoring wing, Shot blocking C). Maybe Dalembert's expiring contract will fetch something next year when Yao returns... It's a wash depending on who we have to send out to get them. I don't think Morey is going to send out anything more than McGrady-Cook-Dorsey-Taylor, unless it's a much better package than either of those two...
no, It's because they want to see Iggy drop facials while wearing a Rox jersey. You know, I know it. If Butler is a B- then Iggy is a B.
Chron said it best, Both guys are paid like go to guys, but neither of them are go to guys. Butler doesnt limit us financialy in the future so he is the best choice.
If we made the trade with the Wiz, we wouldn't have to use our MLE on Haywood. We could resign him and sign another player.
and he's only 26 Iggy represents definite future potential IMO Caron is more of a rental...we might make the playoffs and miss the lottery which might not even be what's best to achieving a championship level team Iggy would be a productive Rocket well after Dalembert's contract expires...if we're giving up assets just to get Butler and Haywood then shed assets and bring over other phila youngsters
I don't really see why the Wizards do this move. Haywood expires this season anyway, and Butler has one of the best contracts in the league for a veteran with his production. Keeping him on the team an extra year won't do anything to hurt their rebuilding effort, and in the East pretty much everyone has a chance to make the playoffs. As long as the Wizards have Arenas' contract they probably aren't a huge player in free agency this off season anyway. If they decide to rebuild they're better off trading their players for young talent rather than expiring contracts. But yeah, if the Wizards are stupid, this is the best trade to make because of the good contracts coming back. Plus, unless there's other trades involved, we'd basically be giving up assets in the Iguodola/Dalember deal (ie, we wouldn't be able to resign Lowry or Scola). If you are okay with that deal, then we may as well just give up an asset in a Wizards trade.
Better look up the stats before writing, Butler is a career higher scorer and rebounder, while their fg% and 3pt% are nearly the same. Iggy is only better in apg, but that´s cause he often is used as a playmaker. There are way more offensive options in Washington, Butler would average even more points in Philly.
Iguodala and Dalembert is not going to happen, the Rockets have indicated several times they only want to take on one bad contract (long term) and it's clear they do no want Dalembert. Butler and Haywood is reasonable but I don't see it happening, the Wizards obviously want either Landry or Brooks. I don't mind Scola but not Landry and Brooks to me is untouchable. Both L&B are consistent and the future, Scola is old and is not going to get better so I don't mind him leaving if it gives us Butler and Haywood.
fixed. Is he good? yes. would I take Dalembert's stupid contract to get him? HELL NO. plus he makes 4 million more than Butler for similar production.
This. That's why people here are kidding themselves in thinking that additional assets shouldn't be coming over from Houston in any trade involving Butler and Haywood. The line most often used is "we're helping them more than they're helping us". In a straight T-Mac for Butler/Haywood/filler trade, that is most definitely NOT the case. One minor correction: If the Wiz manage to trade both Butler AND Jamison for expiring contracts, they could be a pretty big player in free agency. But even then, who'd want to sign on to that mess? Especially when the Arenas situation will likely remain unresolved well into next summer.
ok I'd say this year's statistics are more pertinent after all anyway in which case Iggy is outperforming Caron in pts, rebounds, assists(heavily), steals, blocks, FG%, 3P% (both awful, but 27% to ~32% is mentionable)
I'm pretty much the opposite on Scola and Landry. With how little Scola depends on his athleticism I don't see his play declining anytime soon, and the prime championship window for the Yao era is probably over the next two to three years anyway. Plus, I just think Scola complements Yao a little more. He doesn't need touches to have an impact on the floor like Landry. Part of Landry's success this year has been because of the element of surprise...he has not been nearly as consistent since he started getting articles written about him. Landry is much more dependent on athleticism, and while he shouldn't lose that anytime soon, all it takes is a small injury and he has had a history of knee problems. Scola on the other hand is about as durable as they come. Basically, I wouldn't call either of them untouchable, but I'd trade Landry before I traded Scola.
You're assuming it's McGrady for Butler/etc straight up. If we included someone like Chase Budinger or Luis Scola (not Brooks/Landry), it may be more enticing.
i know i agree with you. iggy has way more sex appeal than butler. i know several girls who want to sex iggy. butler looks like a black navi avatar.
