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[Bush] Withdrawl of Some troops possible

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Sep 3, 2007.

  1. ROXRAN

    ROXRAN Member

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    We victoried on ousting Satam from power ...which is a good thing...The other thing (the recontruction/aftermath) is incomplete

    nothing more,...nothing less...now we just need to help out Iran, and give them nukes....
     
  2. A_3PO

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    Yes we ousted Saddam. Considered by itself, that seems like a good thing. Problem is, you can't just filter out negative consequences when analyzing something. The negative consequences (Al Qaeda's entry into Iraq, Iran's vicegrip on Shia Iraq, virtual civil war, etc) are greater than the positive (no Saddam). At the same time, the nation-building is failing miserably. In addition, our ability to intimidate Iran has been neutered by the Iraq catastrophe. Plus, the huge financial and manpower resources we've poured into Iraq could have been put to better use fighting Al Qaeda and taming Afghanistan.

    The whole thing must be given an "incomplete". "Nothing more, nothing less". If you issue a mid-term report card, the Iraq invasion gets a failing grade. Not even close. You can wishful think and rationalize all you want, but the fact Saddam wasn't close to having WMDs makes the Iraq invasion a gigantic mistake.

    Bush would never admit it, but if he had a do over, he wouldn't have invaded. The Iraq debacle and the disinformation campaign associated with it will define his administration forever.
     
  3. SamFisher

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    It is a good thing. Not sure why you keep focusing on the negative.

    It reminds me of the time I bought the vintage 1918 upside-down Curtiss Jenny biplane block of stamps at a garage sale for a dollar, then turned around and sold it to a dealer for $50.

    You kept telling me I was making a big mistake, the way I see it I just got a 5,000 percent return on my investment. It was all gravy.
     
  4. ROXRAN

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    Yep...

    You also can't condense the postive in name only...Saddam had a nuclear reactor going till the good people from Israel blew it up,...Saddam publicly supported acts of vile suicide bombing via presentation and monetary-wise...He displayed acts of unpredictability towards his neighbors, even his people in ways which threatened lives or just as soon ended numerous lives....

    "failing miserably" and "not yet complete" is two birds in the hand...

    Like I said, 2 birds in the same hand to much of what you speak of...and Saddam had them, didn't have them, but wanted more to the point the Butler report clarifies intelligence as "credible" which Bush used as a basis against Iraq...

    Bush would have done it again, but a correction of tactical applications...nothing more, nothing less...
     

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