Looks like no UN approval. As he has continually stated from the beginning bush will go without it. ******************************* Washington several weeks ago, re-emerged as France, Russia and Germany — the leading voices of opposition to the U.S. resolution — warned they would block any U.N. authorization for military action. Key swing states on the council seemed unwilling to commit to the U.S. position. Complicating matters for the Bush administration were comments Wednesday from chief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix, who said Iraq is now showing "a great deal more" cooperation. Despite intense lobbying, the United States has been unable to muster the nine votes required to adopt a resolution approving war against Iraq no UN approval
If it starts on the 13th, then hopefully it means I won't have to explain to idiot bartenders that the NCAA First Round games are on MTV, and not CBS.
This is about oil, coupled with a long-held grudge by members of Junior's administration. To pretend otherwise is blind faith.
When .6 of the the BIG DADDY security council say no, then it is usually going to be no. Also, I bet Yao supports his government's stance.
Your credibility on this subject just hit rock bottom. The "war for oil" argument is so ignorant that we should just agree to disagree and end this exchange now.
Your blind faith in a sElected official is what's ignorant. After we've occupied Iraq for a few years and American oil companies have settled into monopolizing Iraq's oil resources, we can have this discussion again. For now, we can say we agree to disagree.
Where is the proof that this future war is about oil. I've never seen the proof of that. I believe Powel showed proof that Sadam has been breaking the UN resolutions for years and up till now, been getting away with it. I'm still waiting for the proof that we are going to war for oil....... waiting....... waiting....... waiting....... oh yeah, that's right its just a theory.
Another 'fact' from the World According to Johnheath. Seriously, john, the merits of the argument aside, do you understand the difference between 'fact' and opinion? Between subjective and objective? I am amazed at your incredible and endless assertions that whatever you say is factual, and all who disagree with you are misinformed, delusional, or dishonest. It makes having any kind of discussion pointless, as you refute historical fact, or assert your position based on what you opine to be 'fact' without recognizing the difference between the two...
No..I beleive he is being criticized for selectively deciding which UN mandates are worthy of going to war, irrespective or world opinion, and which ones are worthy of ignoring...
"Regime change" wasn't part of the plan, as it is now. We will all soon learn what Junior's meaning of "regime change" is.
One of the more amazing recent developments is the Newsweek story that says that the highest ranking ever Iraqi defector, Sadam's son in law told the US that Sadam had destroyed his bio and chem weapons. The US government has been lying by keeping this info secret from us. This answers a question that I have long had. Why would Bush send the troops over there to be poisoned? I don't believe that even he would be that callused. In addition if too many die it would be a political problem for him. It looks to me that they don't believe he has any. This story will be among the most important when historians are analyzing the lies that were told to lead us to this war. reeves *********************************** Wealth of information: Hussein Kamel, former Iraqi minister of military industry Exclusive: The Defector’s Secrets Before his death, a key defector said Iraq had destroyed all its chemical and biological weapons but had retained the design and engineering details of its WMD By John Barry NEWSWEEK March 3 issue — Hussein Kamel, the highest-ranking Iraqi official ever to defect from Saddam Hussein’s inner circle, told CIA and British intelligence officers and U.N. inspectors in the summer of 1995 that after the gulf war, Iraq destroyed all its chemical and biological weapons stocks and the missiles to deliver them. KAMEL WAS SADDAM Hussein’s son-in-law and had direct knowledge of what he claimed: for 10 years he had run Iraq’s nuclear, chemical, biological and missile programs. Kamel told his Western interrogators that he hoped his revelations would trigger Saddam’s overthrow. But after six months in exile in Jordan, Kamel realized the United States would not support his dream of becoming Iraq’s ruler after Saddam’s demise. He chose to return to Iraq—where he was promptly killed. Kamel’s revelations about the destruction of Iraq’s WMD stocks were hushed up by the U.N. inspectors, sources say, for two reasons. Saddam did not know how much Kamel had revealed, and the inspectors hoped to bluff Saddam into disclosing still more. And Iraq has never shown the documentation to support Kamel’s story. Still, the defector’s tale raises questions about whether the WMD stockpiles attributed to Iraq still exist. Kamel said Iraq had not abandoned its WMD ambitions. The stocks had been destroyed to hide the programs from the U.N. inspectors, but Iraq had retained the design and engineering details of these weapons. Kamel talked of hidden blueprints, computer disks, microfiches and even missile-warhead molds. “People who work in MIC [Iraq’s Military Industrial Commission, which oversaw the country’s WMD programs] were asked to take documents to their houses,” he said. Why preserve this technical material? Said Kamel: “It is the first step to return to production” after U.N. inspections wind down. Kamel was interrogated in separate sessions by the CIA, Britain’s M.I.6 and a trio from the United Nations, led by the inspection team’s head, Rolf Ekeus. NEWSWEEK has obtained the notes of Kamel’s U.N. debrief, and verified that the document is authentic. NEWSWEEK has also learned that Kamel told the same story to the CIA and M.I.6. (The CIA did not respond to a request for comment.) The notes of the U.N. interrogation—a three-hour stretch one August evening in 1995— show that Kamel was a gold mine of information. He had a good memory and, piece by piece, he laid out the main personnel, sites and progress of each WMD program. Kamel was a manager—not a scientist or engineer—and, sources say, some of his technical assertions were later found to be faulty. (A military aide who defected with Kamel was apparently a more reliable source of tech-nical data. This aide backed Kamel’s assertions about the destruction of WMD stocks.) But, overall, Kamel’s information was “almost embarrass-ing, it was so extensive,” Ekeus recalled—including the fact that Ekeus’s own Arabic translator, a Syrian, was, according to Kamel, an Iraqi agent who had been reporting to Kamel himself all along Newsweek For a good analysis of the coverup and also the curious way that Newsweek downplayed the story. see Fair
Ahhh...so we allow the likes of Saddm Hussein to set the standard for what is acceptable behaviour. Interesting...
