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Bush Paper Details Iraq Spending Plan

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  1. Timing

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    This pisses me off frankly.


    Bush Paper Details Iraq Spending Plan
    Mon Sep 22,10:13 PM ET
    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030923/ap_on_re_mi_ea/us_iraq_reconstruction&cid=540&ncid=716

    By ALAN FRAM, Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON - The administration wants $100 million for an Iraqi witness protection program, $290 million to hire, train and house thousands of firefighters, $9 million to modernize the postal service, including establishment of ZIP codes.


    A Bush administration document, distributed to members of Congress and obtained by The Associated Press, goes far beyond the details officials have publicly provided for how they would spend the $20.3 billion they have requested for Iraqi reconstruction.


    The 53 pages of justifications flesh out the size of the task of rebuilding the country, almost literally brick by brick. It also paints a painstaking picture of the damage Iraq (news - web sites) has suffered.


    "The war and subsequent looting destroyed over 165 firehouses throughout the country. There are no tools or equipment in any firehouse," according to the report, written by the Coalition Provisional Authority, the U.S.-led organization now running Iraq.


    The report's estimated cost of rebuilding Iraq's fire service, including hiring and training 5,000 firefighters: $290 million.


    At another point, the report says the headquarters and three regional offices of the border police "will require complete renovation." Two thousand new recruits must be trained because the agency previously used conscripts, "almost all of whom deserted."


    Reviving that and other border protection agencies should cost $150 million, the report said.


    The proposal was part of the $87 billion plan that President Bush (news - web sites) sent Congress on Sept. 7 for Iraq and Afghanistan (news - web sites). The biggest piece of that package was $66 billion to finance U.S. military operations in both countries and elsewhere.


    "Expeditious approval of this emergency appropriation is critical for the coalition to lay the groundwork for an Iraq governed by and for the people of Iraq, to serve as the model for democracy in the Mideast and to help fight the global war on terrorism by providing an alternative framework for governance," the request states.


    Congress, just beginning work on Bush's proposal, is expected to approve it largely intact. But the political soft spot has been the $20.3 billion for reconstruction, because of record federal deficits facing this country and demands by Democrats for increased domestic security spending.


    "The administration fought against a $200 million boost for America's police officers, firefighters and paramedics," Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., said Monday at a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing. "But Iraqi first responders would get $290 million through this" Bush proposal.


    Byrd made his comments at a hearing where L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. administrator in Iraq, testified that the plan would help prevent terrorists from establishing a foothold there.


    Other projects and their estimated costs listed in the report include:


    _Spend $100 million to protect β€” and perhaps relocate overseas β€” 100 witnesses and their families who testify against former government officials, terrorist groups or organized crime figures. "Without an effective witness protection program, it is simply not possible to prosecute these cases," the report says.


    _Hire, train and equip 20,000 guards to protect Iraqi government facilities, $67 million.


    _Retain 500 experts to investigate crimes against humanity by former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s government, for $100 million.


    _Build and modernize 26 jails and prisons for 8,500 inmates, $99 million.


    _Spend $9 million to modernize Iraq's postal system, including establishment of ZIP codes.

    _Rebuild the country's badly damaged electrical system, install at least 11 40-megawatt gas turbine generation plants and several larger units, replace power lines and towers, $2.9 billion.

    _Spend $55 million for an oil pipeline repair team that can respond quickly to new reports of sabotage or other problems, as part of a $2.1 billion effort to rebuild Iraq's oil industry.

    _Use $1 billion to provide drinkable water to 75 percent of Iraq's urban population, an additional 2.7 million people, up from 60 percent today. An additional $530 million would be spent to serve 75 percent of the rural population, an additional 1.3 million, many of whom now rely on water trucked in as infrequently as once every 10 days. Eventual goal: serve 90 percent of the population, $2.8 billion.

    _Spend $130 million to construct 10 major irrigation and drainage projects.

    _Use $125 million to rebuild railroad tracks.

    _Start building at least 3,528 new houses next year as part of a $100 million housing initiative.

    _Designate $150 million to start building a new children's hospital in Basra.

    _Spend $35 million to subsidize on-the-job training for private businesses.
     
  2. chinawang

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    How much to produce mass destructive weapon?:D :D :D
     
  3. RocketMan Tex

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    Disgusting. All this money for Iraq, and not a damn dime for the unemployed people of the USA. Keep it up Dubya, and you will be a one-termer just like dear old Daddy.
     
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    "We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon."

    -Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz


    β€œOne of the ways we've got to make sure that we keep our economy strong is to be wise about how we spend our money. If you overspend, it creates a fundamental weakness in the foundation of economic growth. And so I'm working with Congress to make sure they hear the message -- the message of fiscal responsibility.” Bush, 9/16/02
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    So you guys don't think we should spend the money in Iraq?
     
  6. RocketMan Tex

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    Why are Iraqi citizens more important than American citizens to this administration?
     
  7. GreenVegan76

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    I'm not gonna rip Bush for this. I can nit-pick the finer details of the plan ($66 billion for military operations is simply ridiculous), but this is the right thing to do.

    Yes, Bush shot down military raises, veterans benefits and more social services than I could fit in one post. But that doesn't make *this* wrong.

    No doubt, work needs to be done here -- and our tax dollars should stay home for *our* problems first -- but it's hard to argue with helping Iraqis rebuild a country we helped destroy. Good for Bush.
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    Because Americans are stupid.
     
  9. Oski2005

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    The Iraqis need that money I think, it's just a shame no one wants to put their own money into it through taxes.
     
  10. mc mark

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    For Bush's Iraq Request, Tough Comparisons Loom

    By Jonathan Weisman and Juliet Eilperin
    Washington Post Staff Writers
    Tuesday, September 23, 2003; Page A04

    With lights recently blacked out in the mid-Atlantic and wetlands conservation being squeezed, President Bush wants to spend nearly $5.7 billion on Iraq's electricity system and as much as $100 million next year to restore that nation's drained marshlands.

    Such comparisons are dogging the administration as it formally launches its defense of an $87 billion emergency war spending request, which Sen. Robert C. Byrd (D-W.Va.) yesterday labeled "fiscal shock and awe." And they are creating a growing sense of unease among Republicans, who say the president's war spending will no doubt be used against them in next year's elections.

    "I have no doubt that some people will be angry," said Rep. James C. Greenwood (R-Pa.), "and I have no doubt some people will try to take full political advantage."

    L. Paul Bremer, administrator of the Iraqi coalition provisional authority, appeared before the Senate Appropriations Committee yesterday in the first of seven hearings scheduled on the president's request, comparing the emergency spending bill to the Marshall Plan that followed World War II. The $20.3 billion for Iraqi reconstruction, he said, "bespeak grandeur of vision equal to the one which created the free world."

    "Creating a sovereign, democratic, constitutional and prosperous Iraq deals a blow to terrorists," he said. "It gives the lie to those who describe us as the enemies of Islam, enemies of the Arabs or enemies of the poor. That is why the president's $87 billion request has to be seen as an important element in the global war on terrorism."

    But lawmakers from both parties seem anxious. Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) told Bremer he is getting "pointed questions" from his constituents, who are demanding to know why a country with the world's second-largest oil reserves is not paying for its own reconstruction.

    A study to be released today by the House Budget Committee's Democratic staff concluded that the cost of the Iraq war and occupation could easily reach $417 billion over the next decade, more than the president is seeking for a 10-year prescription drug benefit for Medicare. Even a benign postwar scenario would cost taxpayers $308 billion, the Democrats concluded.

    "We need at a minimum to recognize the real costs of our operations in Iraq," said John M. Spratt Jr. (S.C.), the Budget Committee's ranking Democrat.

    The debate has touched the presidential contest, as well. Democratic candidate Howard Dean recently noted that his health care plan would cost about $87 billion, "which happens to be almost exactly the amount the president . . . asked to wage war in Iraq for another year." Given a choice, he said, Americans would choose "health insurance that nobody can take away."

    Recent events, natural and political, have conspired to underscore opponents' political charges that Bush is spending more on Iraqis than on his own citizens. The president is seeking $5.7 billion to rebuild and expand Iraq's electricity generation, transmission and distribution systems, just as millions of Americans are regaining power lost to Hurricane Isabel and Congress is grappling with the causes of August's blackout in the Northeast.

    "Where are we going to find the money to repair our own blackout-prone electricity grid if tax dollars are to be spent overseas at such a profligate pace?" asked Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.).

    Bush wants $856 million to upgrade three Iraqi airports, a seaport, rail lines and communications systems. Another $470 million would go toward repairing roads, bridges and houses in Iraq and rehabilitating Iraqi government buildings. The administration also wants $105 million for Afghanistan, to rebuild a highway between Kandahar and Herat and start laying more than 600 miles of smaller roads.

    Yet on the home front, the administration and Congress are at loggerheads over a massive new bill to finance transportation projects. The House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee envisions spending $375 billion over the next six years, while the White House wants $241 billion.

    "Most Americans want us to leave Afghanistan and Iraq with a success on our hands rather than with our tail between our legs, but I think it would help a great deal in doing that for the administration to take another look at what we're doing here in the United States," said Thomas E. Petri (R-Wis.), chairman of the committee's highways, transit and pipelines subcommittee.

    And as Republicans battle among themselves over the cost of seniors' prescription drugs, the White House hopes to spend $878 million on health care in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    <b>"Look at the needs we have here at home with our own roads, sewers and water projects," said Sen. George V. Voinovich (R-Ohio). "It's hard to tell people there isn't money for sewers and water and then send that kind of money to Iraq."</b>

    The fine print of the president's request details how deeply the United States is delving into the workings of Iraqi and Afghan society. One section would provide $35 million in part "for the protection of Afghan President [Hamid] Karzai." Another $37 million would help the Afghan government pay its civil servants.

    Democrats and Republicans in Washington may be bickering over domestic education funding, but they are likely to approve $40 million to construct 275 schools and train 10,000 additional teachers in Afghanistan. Another $45 million would build 100 Afghan markets and create a land registry.

    In Iraq, $875 million is earmarked, in part, to restore drained marshlands, while at home, the administration has proposed holding wetland conservation programs in the Interior Department and Army Corps of Engineers to 2002 levels, just over $100 million.

    Independent experts say the spending measure's price tag should not be a surprise. On a per capita basis, it corresponds roughly to the amount the international community spent on Bosnia in the 1990s.

    This time, however, the United States is paying almost the entire bill; in Bosnia, it paid for 22 percent of the reconstruction costs. James F. Dobbins, director of Rand's International Security and Defense Policy Center, said lawmakers could have anticipated this commitment when they chose to oust Saddam Hussein without enlisting more allies abroad.

    "The Congress . . . by an overwhelming majority voted in favor of this conflict," Dobbins said. "Iraq's 10 times bigger than Bosnia. All Congress had to do is multiply Bosnia by 10. It's not rocket science."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49354-2003Sep22.html
     
  11. Timing

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    Bush playing Sim City at the highest level possible. :mad:
     
  12. GreenVegan76

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    LOL

    I never though of it like that! I should show him GreenVeganopolis. Might help. :p
     

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