I'M PRETTY SURE THERE WERE ABOUT 1,000 OTHER THREATS TO THE U.S. AT THE TIME... At that time---- we couldn't have took every threat seriously. NOW WE DO...
Ok I suppose if the president knew about a possible attack it was ok to keep it from the American people who voted his sorry ass into office. If we would have been warned about some sort of attack our security would have been beefed up. But was it? HELL NO They took these threats lightly and for that innocent people died! Nobody is saying they knew they were gonna hit the Towers but the President knew of a possible attempt to attack and did ZERO about it.... Now you guys wanna sit here and call people morons, well all I see is TRASH posting when you degrade people for speaking their opinions. But you know I have had several email me saying keep up the good work because I bring opinions and interesting reading. YOU DO NOT LIKE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY PUT ME ON IGNORE I welcome all opinions but I never bash anyone because I have respect for others post unlike some of you people. So keep bashing I will keep posting. You just cannot accept the fact someone has the balls to say our PRESIDENT FAILED US. But again Flame Away!
So basically from what your saying why do we need a president Is he basically a yes man in a monkey suit? Do we have a president to just comfort the United States knowing that someone is a leader? Would Intelligence admit they failed? Good post
No. What I was saying is that we need the intelligence community to put the pieces together in order to give the President enough information and counsel to make an informed judgement. If you want the President to come on TV every six or seven seconds and detail every single threat against the US, you'll never get that (thankfully so because that would do nothing but cause chaos, not to mention that people would stop listening when so many of the threats didn't end up happening for whatever reason). Relying on the people who work in the government to provide information and counsel does not make the President a monkey in a suit. If so, then every President we've ever had (and every leader everywhere) a monkey in a suit.
Are Clutch's Cohorts then <b>actually responsible</b> for some of the mayhem, rudeness, silliness, obscenity et al that gets posted here? At least they have the power of deletion or banishment.
I have to work on my reading skills. I read that as "monkey in a suit" instead of yes man in a monkey suit (which is a slang term for a tuxedo, in all my experience. I'm not sure what a tuxedo has to do with anything, but whatever.....)
This has nothing to do with politics. The Bush administration should have let this information be known to the public, they should have checked those flight schools and told the airlines about the threat and should have had extra security in those airports. This isnt about politics, this about saving lives. More will come out I'm sure. They need to investigate further into this.
Ok, TroyB. I'm not gonna bash you, but i must respectfully disagree. Let me preface this by saying i am not a G-Bush fan at all. However, i don't see how disclosing this generic "knowledge" of a plane hijacking could've prevented september 11th's occurrences. The fact is that infinite amounts of information, rumors, tips, innuendos, etc. are reported everyday. Are they all found to be true? Nope. Most of them are nothing but false intelligence. By attempting to report each one of these typically worthless pieces of info, lacking in detail and depth, you would be creating a government that seems to cry wolf 24-7, and slowly create a society immune to these government warnings. It dilutes the trust in the government if every day the government tells you to "watch out for this" without details, and then NOTHING happens. Does that make sense? Anyway, my point i'm trying to make is that it wouldn't have made a difference to announce such a random, nonspecific piece of info. "We have heard a plane might get hijacked within the next couple of days, but we don't know which one so...umm.....like, don't fly ANYTHING for the next seven days." Whether the message is practical or not, i can tell you that a good portion of the people are gonna think it can't be "their plane" even if the hijacking does occur. All in all, i dislike Bush, but this happening shouldn't be blamed on him. There are better conspiracies to follow out there....
The Bush administration should have let this information be known to the public, they should have checked those flight schools and told the airlines about the threat and should have had extra security in those airports. First of all, airlines WERE warned. Second, why would they check flight schools? Not knowing what we know now, why assume they would have trained here? There are plenty of flight schools in the mid-east. It's easier to hijack a plane abroad. What information was provided that they would do it here? How long would you have security higher? The initial information was provided in May. How long would you have made passengers deal with delays and such for some non-specific threat? A month? 3 months? 6 months? A year? Forever? Besides, extra security would have done nothing, given that these people didn't bring anything illegal on board.
They were warned? Can you give me a link to that ? I havnt heard anything like that yet. ''not knowing what we know now, why assume they would have trained here? '' : http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac3/C...01Sep22&node=nation/specials/attacked/archive
They were warned? Can you give me a link to that ? I havnt heard anything like that yet. Ari Fleischer discussed it in his press conference today. I don't know if they keep transcripts of those online or not, but if so, it would be in there. Unfortunately, since they didn't have any specifics, all they were able to tell the airlines was that they had information that Al Queda was looking at hijacking American planes. The problem, of course, is that this is ALWAYS the case -- Mid-east terrorists have always been interested in hijacking US planes. Without specifics, there's not a lot that can be done. ''not knowing what we know now, why assume they would have trained here? '' : http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac3/C...ttacked/archive That's interesting, but the fact is that the FBI never made the proper connections: <I>"We were unable to marry any information from investigations or the intelligence community that talked to their use of this expertise in the events that we saw unfold on the 11th," the official said.</I> That may very well be an intelligence failure between the FBI/CIA/NSA/etc, but I don't see how the Bush administration is at fault here, since they weren't provided that info.
There's already a link in this thread noting that the Administration through the DOT and the FAA passed along the general information.
I heard that the named suspects were none of the ones who eventally accomplished the hijackings and crashes on 9/11. This is just a low-blow. Daschle is just a sniveling idiot.
Hell I don't know. Hey someone run for president! Woulda, shoulda, coulda!!!! Stop yer b****in' GOD BLESS AMERICA... http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/05/16/bush.sept.11/index.html "The president of the United States can't be expected to be an intelligence analyst and a case officer," said Graham, D-Florida. "The people who are responsible for taking action are the same people who wrote the intelligence information that was submitted to the president." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rice said the administration was justified in not publicizing the information at the time. "There was no time. There was no place. There was no method of attack," she said. "It simply said, 'These are people who train and seem to talk simply of hijacking.' You would have risked shutting down the American civil aviation system with such general information," she said during a presentation at the White House.
