1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Bush: Intelligent Design Should Be Taught

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Aug 2, 2005.

  1. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Messages:
    14,382
    Likes Received:
    13
    That's because he wants creationism taught! :D
     
  2. thegary

    thegary Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2002
    Messages:
    11,006
    Likes Received:
    3,128
    i hope it would give people a few less reasons to hate one another.
     
  3. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    59,079
    Likes Received:
    52,748
    Evangelicals... :(
     
  4. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924
    so secular humanism IS a religion after all!! ;)
     
  5. thegary

    thegary Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2002
    Messages:
    11,006
    Likes Received:
    3,128
    NEWSFLASH:

    Only the Christian Worldview includes the concept of hope!
     
  6. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Messages:
    14,382
    Likes Received:
    13
    I have hope. I hope the evangelicals will leave me alone.
     
  7. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924

    I'M ALL UP IN YOUR FACE!!! woo hoo!!!! :D
     
  8. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Messages:
    14,382
    Likes Received:
    13
    Nah, I think you know the difference between honey and vinegar...
     
  9. thegary

    thegary Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2002
    Messages:
    11,006
    Likes Received:
    3,128
    Pay attention now
    say oops upside your head say oops upside your head
     
  10. flamingmoe

    flamingmoe Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2003
    Messages:
    721
    Likes Received:
    0

    Hahhaa awesome post!
     
  11. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    59,079
    Likes Received:
    52,748
    [​IMG]




    :D
     
  12. flamingmoe

    flamingmoe Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2003
    Messages:
    721
    Likes Received:
    0
    I would support this type of class in public schools...

    does it surprise anyone that this course failed to attract interest? afterall, the creationists just want equal time right? let the kids decide?

    the article goes on to talk about how the residents are pushing for creationism in the science class again, which exposes their true motivation: putting their myths into public school, not about exposing the kids to all the ideas
     
  13. rhester

    rhester Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2001
    Messages:
    6,600
    Likes Received:
    104
    Whenever this topic comes up if it isn't about God, I sure don't know what the fuss is about.

    Is God anywhere in the science of evolution? Care to show me where?

    This is all about belief in God.

    The Christian hope is not in this life, but it is a hope in a resurrection after death.
    Is that the same hope everyone here feels in their own hearts?

    I am looking forward to the resurrection. What is everyone else hoping for?

    Man thinks he is so smart, many here are plunging head first both fists clinched not towards origins, but towards one last gasping breath. The real question is not where did you come from but where are you going! (it's all about destination my friend)

    Origins, that is actually a man-made laugher, tell me about future destinations after death.

    So everyone believes they have the origin answer neatly tucked away inside a brain that evolved from a common ancestor, like a humanoid 3.5 ft. tall.
    (why not call it an early monkey and turn your eyes on the future)

    What evolution fails to tell you is where you are going except to dust.

    I know EVERYONE has an answer for the life after. That's why most people eat, drink and are merry. But the right answer to that question is infinitely more important at the moment than did God speak or dark matter burp.

    Faith may not satisfy the skeptic, but science won't save the intellectual.
    Religion may be a sham in one man's heart but who can say it isn't the salvation of another man?

    When it is all said and dead, you and I will exercise the same faith.

    God or man?

    If evolution was water tight perfect, I really don't think I am personally stupid enough to abandon ship with so much at stake.

    I might be wrong, but I have very carefully looked at as much evidence as possible on both sides.

    How about you?
     
  14. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Messages:
    14,382
    Likes Received:
    13
  15. rhester

    rhester Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2001
    Messages:
    6,600
    Likes Received:
    104
    Thanks, but I was speaking of the God of the Bible, of Genesis.

    This is the part of the article that really spoke to me-
    "When you look at Christianity it's also made by non-Christian elements. When you can see that then you realise the wisdom of non-self and there is no discrimination between the self and non-self. Mango is different than grapefruit, the Venerable Mahakasyapa is different from the Venerable Ananda. We can distinguish the differences but we don't have any discrimination, and then we liberate ourself because we are not caught by the appearance, the notion of self."

    I might need the new Modern American English version of this. I admit, it lost me early on.
     
  16. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    59,079
    Likes Received:
    52,748
    [​IMG]
    God starts our universe then moves on to other projects
    _______

    I've never understood why religions haven't looked at the big bang theory and considered it a divine act ~ god starts the universe from nothing and then lets his creation work it self out (evolution).

    God probably has lots of universes to attend he can’t be bothered with the details of a humming bird beak when there are serious issues with carbon atoms in universe 9,0dd,35Rq,962,bg4,m27,T4i,32K.014 ~

    :)
     
  17. rhester

    rhester Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2001
    Messages:
    6,600
    Likes Received:
    104
    Very good post. I once saw it that way when I became a Christian, but...

    1. There are no missing links (at least the billions needed) so God surely wouldn't have left them out.
    2. God could handle it all.
    3. I've never understood why we haven't looked at the big bang theory and considered it a divine act ~ god created and bang matter and energy appeared. Even light in travel could be created. If you are going to believe in God pick a great big all powerful one.
    4. Jesus Christ and the Apostle Paul both stated creation in other terms. (one I serve as Lord and God and the other I esteem as speaking God's words)
    5. I wonder how the pyramids were built but I don't doubt somebody smart built them. (and you may know, I just don't) :)
     
  18. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924
    I think the Big Bang Theory is a testament to God. Works for me.
     
  19. flamingmoe

    flamingmoe Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2003
    Messages:
    721
    Likes Received:
    0
    I really don't want this to turn into a 'is christianity true' thread, but since rhester said that he believes in a literal reading of Genesis and that is the basis for his belief in creationism, I was wondering how you reconcile in your mind to reject evolution based on percieved holes but accept Genesis, which is filled with logical fallacies? (there was night and day before there was a Sun, plants grow before there was a Sun, light from distant stars reach earth instantly)?
     
  20. pirc1

    pirc1 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2002
    Messages:
    14,137
    Likes Received:
    1,882
    Actaully evolution can be proved (or disproved), just not very easily. Just wait for 100 million years (dinosaur lasted much longer than that), if humans are still thriving then we should know for sure. Or a handy time machine would help.

    Doc could help us build one.

    [​IMG] ;)
     
    #420 pirc1, Aug 17, 2005
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2005

Share This Page