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Bush continues to work towards complete destruction of the GOP

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mc mark, Oct 3, 2007.

  1. rimbaud

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    Just for fun:

    UT is better in many areas, though, and UT is much better overall than the majority of private schools in Texas.

    Penn is an Ivy and better than most private schools as well.

    See above...besides Rutgers started out private and chose to go public.

    See above about Penn. SUNY and CUNY programs are better than a large number of private universities as well. And, of course, Syracuse is private.

    Both are private and there are public universities plenty better than BU or BC

    John Hopkins > Georgetown or Terps

    Again, both are private (Johns Hopkins) and Maryland is better than many other Mid-Atlantic privates...GW? Also William & Mary in Virginia is public and way better than many privates.

    No way. UMich has every advantage but class sizes (depending on major). Killer faculty, research libraries, etc..

    At UMich you probably can even learn proper use of then/than.
     
  2. Batman Jones

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    I appreciate that, Sam. I'm not a Jew, it's true. But I am Jewish. For example, my parents were Jews.

    Oh, poor defeated basso, do you remember those days when you triumphantly threw the proof of the WMD's in our faces? When we were all proved the fools for doubting Bush's reasons for going into this stupid, stupid failure of a war? Those must have been great times for you. Back then it was you that was the "snob," as you seem to define it. You know, as someone who seems to know what they're talking about and isn't shy with the sass in the cause of it. You took great liberties in that way then. Before you were so deeply and profoundly proven wrong. And now you are sadly reduced to arguing that Rush Limbaugh's hate speech is lesser than moveon.org's since they are a PAC and he is a "private individual."

    I seriously don't know how you get up in the morning unless you're joking. You're lying to us or you're lying to yourself. Because there is no way whatsoever that you believe what you say you believe here. Nobody does. Not Bush, not Rush, not you. They're working a partisan game for a specific goal in which they have something to gain. You have nothing to gain from that goal, but you continue to work their angles. You are either way dumber than you seem, which is virtually impossible, or you are faking. Either way, you have long since given up proudly talking down to the board in defense of this mistake of a war. I'll go ahead an accept that as an admission that you were wrong since you are profoundly incapable of ever admitting it officially.
     
  3. NewYorker

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    Well, i don't think any of you are mentally ill, just idiots really. But it's fun to get your goat. I admit, you idiots got my goat one time. I'm impressed. But the score right now is about 234 to 1. Although I admit that this is getting a bit dull. I think it would be nice if you guys had enough brains to actually play this on a higher level. It's getting too easy.

    What's strange is I actually was a liberal when I joined this group, and have moved so much toward the center from seeing the posts of liberals here that i found it disturbing. You have to hand it to the conservatives on this board, they really take the abuse dished out to them very well, and stay pretty fair and balanced to borrow from fox.

    Anyway, I think you should first come to nyc and meet me and say this stuff to my face before you spew your cowardly garbage here. To me, you're just a spineless guy who hides behind his computer and talks tough about how you need a gun to feel safe, and you can't leave your computer or do anything, or even expose yourself on film. Otto - you're the biggest phony here, the leader of the fools. Your cult is batman jones, rimrocker, king cheetah, sam fischer, and a few others. All bravo no substance.

    Is there a liberal on this Board who actually knows what they are talking about? Basso has run circles around you. It must be really frustrating for you guys.
     
  4. Batman Jones

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    Oh, reaaaaaalllllllyyyyyy??????

    Well I say the score is 234,000,000,000,000 to 1.

    And I say you are full of doo doo.

    And 234,000,000,000,000 is way higher than 234.

    And your doo doo smells freaking horrible. It has, shall I say, "no substance." Much like, shall I say, diarreah.

    In other words, we can talk to you just like you talk to us. Only better.
     
  5. geeimsobored

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    And now I remember why I don't post nearly as often in D&D anymore.
     
  6. rimrocker

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    You must have joined this group from that place called Crazyville.
     
  7. Batman Jones

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    In other words, you are guilty of exactly what you charge others with: arriving at your opinions based on your feelings toward people on the other side.

    You have spent the last two months accusing those of us opposed to the Iraq war of holding that opinion only because we are hard core liberals that hate Bush, regardless of the facts on the ground. Never mind that over 70% of the country now shares our feeling about the war. And now you admit that your views have been shaped by dislike of people who hold the opposite ones.

    New Yorker: we are not like you. We do not come to our opinions on the most important issues of the day because we don't like people. We come to them through sincere reaction to the issues themselves.

    I am sorry that you used to be a liberal but changed your core values based on hurt feelings due to the poor response you got to your horrible performance in the Macaca thread, but the shallowness and changeable nature of your views is not in line with that of the average person here or elsewhere. If you don't like us, call us dicks or whatever; don't change your opinion on a freaking war!

    I didn't decide to oppose the Iraq war because I hate Bush. I opposed it because it was a stupid war and because I knew people would die for a stupid, unnecessary cause. When the search function is back you should check that. Nobody offended me into believing what I do (as we apparently did for you). I believed it because I thought people were going to DIE for NOTHING.

    At that point we're not having a cute little debate, we're talking about death. We're talking about someone never getting to have another opinion one way or another. And we're talking about that happening because of an elective war.

    If your opinion about the war has changed significantly according to how you feel you've been treated by war opponents, your egotism is beyond any horrible word I could throw at it. Because that means you feel that the offense you've experienced in relatively polite discourse (we certainly weren't using real guns or bombs) is justification for supporting policy that results in loss of life.

    Get over yourself.

    You have spent the last several months asserting again and again that anti war folks only feel that way because they hate Bush or Republicans. And now you've admitted you only feel the way you do because liberals (on this board! LOL) offended you. We aren't against this war because we got our feelings hurt. We're against it because it is immoral, unjust, illegal and based on a pile of lies. Not to mention the fact that its a disaster of mismanagement married to a PR campaign that makes traitors of anyone that recognizes the folly of it.

    Finally, five years into the war, the vast majority of America sees it for what it is. But you're going the other way. Why? Because people were mean to you on a Rockets fan site.

    You suck so bad, dude. There aren't even words for it.
     
  8. B-Bob

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    Hope to end the sidetrack on universities now -- agree completely with rimbaud.

    In California, let's say, compare Loyola Marymount to UC Berkeley, or UC Davis, or UC Irvine... it's not close really. *Maybe* the small class sizes, in just a few majors, would get a kid a better *undergrad* education at LMU. Maybe. But public schools can be tremendous. In San Francisco, UCSF (public, not my employer, but I wish they were), is basically a Nobel factory (keep your ears pealed for Blackburn next week), and does more for human health and biotech as any institution in the world. blah blah blah. They also train their (grad) students like no other, IMO.

    And then, on the private side of things, for every Stanford, there's a more modest place like mine, to say nothing of some *really* scary little private schools who can't sniff the jockstrap of a public school's athletic wash room.

    So there's only one generalization to make about higher ed, IMO: on average, a kid will get more attention from professors, as an undergraduate, at a private school. The number of options open to a kid will on average be better at a public school. You'd think the professor contact angle would always be a good thing, but some profs are outdated and can't teach, and that says nothing of what happens at, say, Bob Jones U.
     
  9. B-Bob

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    As for basso, I have some (limited) sympathies to express.

    Maybe I am just in a good mood. Maybe the french press coffee I just made is so exceptional, and the morning sunlight so gorgeous, that I am in a rare state of mind.

    The sympathy goes like this. When I lived in Santa Cruz, CA, for a year, it nearly drove me nuts. I used to say "everyone in Santa Cruz has a song in their heart... but it's the same damned song!"

    So the inner Texan would come out in very conservative ways. I found myself continually taking the more conservative side of arguments. I wanted to put a gunrack in my Corolla. It has been easier in San Francisco for me to just be me, where the variety of views would surprise you, and at least there are many different kinds of liberal and moderate.

    So my (limited) sympathy for basso is that maybe he just does not enjoy a pep rally. Maybe he gets so sick of so many people on one side (and it was largely like that before the stupid war also) that he just wants to pipe up and try to maintain the other side. I also wonder about 9/11 and basso. Honestly, it has affected many friends of mine in Manhattan in profound ways, politically.
     
  10. NewYorker

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    For a playwright your prose and ability to spin are pretty weak.

    No, there are liberals I respect. My opinions changed because the libs here such as yourself have been crushed by moderate and conservative thinkiers, and in the debates, I've learned a lot. I think I've changed as well just as I've seen more perspectives.

    This board is great, there's a lot of people who know there stuff and contribute some very good insights. And they put to shame the stuff the wacko liberal group that i've called out.

    But nice try with your long rant to try once again to paint me as something I'm not....maybe you should go back to playwriting school or something....shakespere you are not even close to.

    When I came here it was because i was bored during the Rockets lean years and not much going on....and I didn't take D&D seriously. I saw it as a bunch of typical liberals and endless arguing, so I played the role of the conservative and after learning a lot more about that side, I really have gained respect for their perspective. A lot of great conservative posters here.

    And there are some very good liberal voices as well, just that it's not you by a long shot. I don't feel bad for messing with you and others, because you have brought it upon yourself. But now, as I have stated before, if i am sinking, then you are sinking faster.

    My reputation on D&D doesn't mean anything to me - i hold no value to it. But i know you care about how you are perceived here, so for that sake, you may want to take a different approach.
     
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  11. rimbaud

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    Please do that. Also, you could put some mudflaps (the kind with the pin up girls) in the back and hunting seats in the front and be the Redneck Physicist of San Francisco. Then to really confuse people you cold put a shark fin on your roof.

    PS - you forgot to mention that your institution was "sub par" pre-you but has been elevated to "modest" due to the strong physics department post-you. We need some B-Bobitude.
     
  12. Blake

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    nice prose there, yoda
     
  13. NewYorker

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    each post you make like this makes you less credible to the very people you are trying to gain respect from by making the post in the first place.

    think about it for a minute, before you post again.
     
  14. NewYorker

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    no, yoda would have said:

    Close to Shakespere not you are.

    Difference see you?
     
  15. jo mama

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    that is strange. you allow the random postings of a bunch of anonymous people on a b-ball message board influence your real-life political beliefs?

    thats pretty weak minded, dont you think?
     
  16. NewYorker

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    after reading how narrow minded the thinking was of liberals, i saw the traps and flaws, and gained a respect for lots of other thinking, and now take a more holistic view.

    i actually now see how weak minded it is to be a liberal or conservative. to be nothing is much stronger.
     
  17. rimbaud

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    FYI, it is "Shakespeare". I thought it was just a typo but you have done it more than once now.
     
  18. rimrocker

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    Who's "Shakespere?"
     
  19. rimrocker

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    Respect and credibility are earned, not appropriated for ourselves. Think about it before you post again.
     
  20. DaRock1

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    NewYorkers, it seems to me 90% of the people here have problems with you. Sooner or later you have to ask yourself an honest question: "Why?".
     

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