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Bush continues to work towards complete destruction of the GOP

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  1. mc mark

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    Bush vetoes expansion of kids' health insurance program

    President Bush on Wednesday vetoed legislation expanding a children's health insurance program by $35 billion over five years.

    Bush quietly exercised the veto at 10 a.m. before leaving the White House for a trip to Lancaster, Pennsylvania, to discuss the federal budget and taxes.

    Congress sent the legislation expanding the State Children's Health Insurance Program, or SCHIP, to the White House on Tuesday.

    "It is our hope and the will of the American people that the president will sign the bill into law on behalf of the future. It is right for no less than 10 million reasons -- our children," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said in a joint statement.

    The Senate voted 67-29 Thursday to expand the program. Bush has said it's a step toward universal coverage, which he opposes on philosophical grounds.

    The program would double -- from 4 million to 8 million -- the number of children covered.

    Eighteen Republicans joined all of the Democrats in voting to expand the program from its annual budget of $5 billion to $12 billion for the next five years.

    Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah was among those Republicans who split from the president. "It's very difficult for me to be against a man I care so much for," he told his colleagues on the Senate floor before the vote. "It's unfortunate that the president has chosen to be on what, to me, is clearly the wrong side of this issue."

    Though 67 votes in the 100-person chamber would suffice to overturn a veto, the House version, which was approved by a 265-159 vote on September 25, fell short of the two-thirds majority needed.

    House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Maryland, said Tuesday that he won't schedule the override vote on SCHIP until next week or later. There is no time limit in the House of Representatives on when it has to bring the bill up again.

    A Washington Post-ABC News poll conducted September 27-30 found 72 percent of those surveyed support an increase in spending on the program, with 25 percent opposed. The poll's margin of error was 3 percentage points.

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/03/bush.veto/index.html
     
    #1 mc mark, Oct 3, 2007
  2. mc mark

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    Let's see...

    $35 billion over 5 years? nope! Too expensive

    $190 billion for another year of war? No problem.
     
    #2 mc mark, Oct 3, 2007
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    typical political stunt by the libs...
     
    #3 El_Conquistador, Oct 3, 2007
  4. mc mark

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    really?

    Eighteen Republicans joined all of the Democrats in voting to expand the program from its annual budget of $5 billion to $12 billion for the next five years.

    Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah was among those Republicans who split from the president. "It's very difficult for me to be against a man I care so much for," he told his colleagues on the Senate floor before the vote. "It's unfortunate that the president has chosen to be on what, to me, is clearly the wrong side of this issue."
     
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  5. trea

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    Why does Bush hate the children?
     
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    Well, if children want health care, why should they take my taxes to pay for it? They should get jobs like the rest of us instead of leeching off the government!</sarcasm>

    Once again, Bush shows that he has absolutely no moral compass.
     
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    Perhaps we should address the issue of funding benefits that we already promise and garnish wages to support (social security) rather than expanding our already crappy medical care infrastructure with yet another beauracracy-expanding program.
     
    #7 kokopuffs, Oct 3, 2007
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    Because they aren't old enough to kill Iraqis...yet.
     
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    Typical bullsh*t post from Ignatz.
     
    #9 RocketMan Tex, Oct 3, 2007
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    Hey, we're up to 4...

     
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    SCHIP is one of those federal programs that works, improves quality of life for kids, ultimately saves us all money by making preventative care accessible (thereby reducing financial strain caused by overutilization of emergency care), but no no no, lets not expand it.

    Another feather in the cap of the Bush Cheney administration.
     
    #11 CBrownFanClub, Oct 3, 2007
  12. mc mark

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    coward
     
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    because he likes to eat them for dinner - didn't you know? He actually is a vampire!

    let's stop demonizing people though. I don't like Bush either, but this is ridiculous.
     
    #13 NewYorker, Oct 3, 2007
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    Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill.

     
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    Is it? A day after $150 billion more for the war in Iraq was approved, the prez decides that expanding health care for children is a bad idea. The argument could certainly be made that he simply doesn't care about the welfare of children in this country.
     
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    2nd post in a matter of hours with zero substance, and instead an attack.

    the bill would double the amount of children covered by the healthcare program. It works, it helps those who need it.

    So if your idea of a typical liberal political stunt is doing something that helps insure children who might need medical attention then, I'm all in favor of more liberal political stunts. They are great.
     
    #16 FranchiseBlade, Oct 3, 2007
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    All your base are belong to US!

    This should keep them poor folks from bringing in more poor kids to suck this country dry....
     
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    I may be wrong, but I believe CHIP is one of the few truly successful and cost-effective government programs out there.
     
    #18 Major, Oct 3, 2007
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    Isn't this bill the one that considers families who make 80 grand a year to be "low income"? No offense but that's worthy of a veto.
     
    #19 count_dough-ku, Oct 3, 2007
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    An entire family that makes 80 grand might not be low income, but they could certainly have trouble paying for health insurance for multiple children.

    It seems like you didn't really put a lot of thought into this before deeming it worth a veto. That's OK, neither did the President.
     
    #20 FranchiseBlade, Oct 3, 2007
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