Bush changes strategy -- will call for independent counsel on WMD-----

I hope that Bush is not this patently dumb to out Plame quid pro quo for Wilson's tale.

Wasn't the Administration's contention that there were efforts made to purchase said yellow-cake not that it actually happened? I don' think it was ever presented as "done" but rather as "intention."

 

Batman. I was talking about MacBeth and his thoughts that other posters are bringing him down with their views. Not on the war, thanks for your concern buddy...

 

That was a Chris Farley joke.

 

"Don't bother answering my previous post...already know all I need to about you."

Man, it's kind of cold in here all the sudden.

 

Just wait until November when Bush gets reelected...

 

I honestly can't wait for that time as well!

 

What's that line about chickens and hatching eggs? And no, it doesn't involve an AWOL National Guardsman making breakfast.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x10002.xml

51-43%, Mr. Kerry over President Bush.

 

Very interesting, a Democrat leads in a poll conducted entirely in the Northeast.

"From January 28 – 31, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,219 registered voters nationwide (Nationwide meaning all of the Northeast), with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percent. The survey includes 420 Democrats with a margin of error of +/- 4.8 percent.

The Quinnipiac University Poll, directed by Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D., conducts public opinion surveys in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania and nationwide as a public service and for research."

 

So as you were saying about chickens and eggs?...

 

That it sounds good for breakfast?

I'm not saying Kerry or any other Democratic nominee will win, but it's not a shoe-in for President Bush either.

ron413, so, you're just going to assume that the pollsters are lying when they say that it was a nationwide poll? How does that explain the poor polling of civil unions and gay marriage in good ole' liberal New England?

 

I think he meant that the poll says conducted in New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, and maybe Connecticut. Not exactly NE, but pretty darn close.

 

The poll says it's nationwide. Third word in the article:

He just doesn't like the results of the poll, so he's accusing them of lying.

 

I never accused them of lying. How dare you?

 

Uh, so what do you call this?

and

You're either accusing them of lying when they say that the survey was nationwide or you have really bad reading comprehension skills.

 

Greg Thielmann is a name that might end up playing a part in this.. here's an article from October of last year..

He had top security clearance so he was privy to the same intel that the Bush Admin was..

Thielmann's last job at the State Department was director of the Office of Strategic Proliferation and Military Affairs, which was responsible for analyzing the Iraqi weapons threat for Secretary Powell. He and his staff had the highest security clearances, and everything – whether it came into the CIA or the Defense Department – came through his office.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/14/60II/main577975.shtml


Seymore Hersh has also written a couple of articles on the subject of Pre War intel and The Pentagon's "Office of Special Plans" Both are informative..


http://www.newyorker.com/printable/?fact/030512fa_fact

http://newyorker.com/printable/?fact/031027fa_fact

 

Look at the scoreboard, just because a team may have more yards in a football game does not mean that they are ahead in the game.

You may be listening, but are you really hearing what is being said?

 

What in the world are you talking about? Can you point me to this scoreboard? What is your evidence that Bush is necessarily winning at this point and will win in November?

I merely posted a poll that's showing the current flow of things in the 2004 Presidential race in order to inform some that it isn't a given for Bush to win re-election. I made no additional commentary regarding his chances or anyone else's for that matter.

 

Come on, keep up.

A democrat winning the popular vote in a token registered voters poll with a major East Coast flavor is really something to take seriously as the current flow things?

 

So, among democrats keery leads bush by only eight points? that can't be good for the dems if they nominate kerry!

 

Just because the pollsters are from the East Coast doesn't mean there is any kind of bias to this. Again, say it with me, this was a nationwide poll, that only included 420 Democrats, just a fraction over a third of all respondents. There is no evidence that this poll is biased in anyway. See the results on gay marriage and civil unions for further evidence of that.

Not to mention there was an MSNBC/Newsweek poll taken a few days ago showing Kerry having an advantage over President Bush, even if it was only by two points.

The score currently is 0-0. One can start making predictions about what the score will end up in November, but to say one candidate has the clear advantage over another (aside from the fringe Democratic candidates), is simply premature.