What happen if Vince Young shows that he really would LOVE and wants to play here & Bush is not showing much interested in coming to Houston, and says more like "yeah I guess I'll just play for whoever drafts me ah I dont really have a choice because I dont want to hold out or demand to play somewhere else ...."
Well considering that this is exactly the situation we will have to wait and see. I am making my lock prediction later this morning. I make predictions that end up on people's sigs.
Just heard on Mike and Mike on ESPN that Bush has decided to go back to school. Greenie was getting information through his ear piece and stated that he understand that ESPN had learned that Bush would return for senior season. At that point the radio show went to commercial and I was unable to hear what was said after the show returned. Did anyone else hear this.
Maybe they were talking about this: It's in the sidebar on the espn.com story here about Reggie making his announcement today.
Why can't we all just get along...If he does come out, we need to either take VY or trade down...We need more picks for every other hole we need to fill...Bush cannot take the pounding...He won't be an inside runner in the NFL...If you want one, take Lendale...
i'd trade carr before i took VY. and a drop in his trade value still isn't enough to keep me from taking VY. you don't let things like that get in the way of drafting a guy like that.
I am not sure I understand everyone's fascination with inside runners. I do think White will make a great a RB in the league but I would really like to get a look at his 40 time. DD is a good inside runner already, as is Warrick Dunn and he weighs about a buck 90. Anyone that has actually seen Dunn play will tell you that he gets most of his yards inside. I am also sure why people seem to think Bush will not be able to "take the pounding" Barry Sanders was 5'8" and 203 and he played for 10 yrs. Curtis Martin is 5'11" and 205 and he has had a long successful career. Emmit Smith was about 210 when he came into the league. Reggie is 6' 207lbs, benches 4 bills, and is only 21. I will bet he gains another 5-10 in the very near future.
because we watched barry and curtis do that. we watched them run in between the tackles as much or more than we watched them run around the corners...trying to outspeed everyone to the flats. there is no emmit/bush comparison...they are entirely different running backs. emmitt doesn't line up at florida as a slot receiver as much as he lines up in the backfield. bush's game is different.
Again it is not only Bush's speed that makes him special, it is his ability to change directions. How many USC games have you actually seen? These bunk ass comparison to people like Metcalf, Howard, and the Rocket are flat out silly. Just because Bush has great hands and enpugh speed to play some WR doesn't mean he cannot run in between the tackles, or that he will turn into another Desmond Howard.
i'm not comparing him to howard or metcalf as a running back. howard was a flat-out receiver...not a running back at all. however, both of those guys could change directions with the best of them...particularly desmond. his highlight film would look every bit as impressive, if not more so, than bush's. i did watch bush play. i watched him play against the Pac 10. i didn't see him running between the tackles with any consistency. they used white for that. i'm telling you, you can't do that in the NFL.
I watched over half the college football games Reggie Bush has played in. Well more than half this year. Speed and change of direction isn't enough in the pros for a RB. Pro LBs and DBs may not be as fast as Bush, but they are fast enough and study tape enough to not let him get the edge. Except for 1 play the Texas Longhorns--an outstanding and fast college defense, but no where near comparable to the worst of the pro defenses--was good enough to take out his running and SC turned to White instead. Reggie Bush has shown no where near the ability to run between the tackles the way Faulk, Dorsett, Sanders, Dickerson, Thomlinson, Allen, etc had already shown in the college ranks. I haven't seen him block much either, another requirement for the elite pro workhorse backs (though in fairness most of these guys didn't block much in college either). This doesn't mean he can't learn to be a complete RB, or that he won't be a great runner between the tackles with an instinctive feel for using blocks and slipping tackles in tight space--but we don't have a lot of evidence for it yet. It is a big leap to just assume he will have it. It is no bigger of an assumption that Vince Young will have no problem grasping an NFL offense than to assume Reggie Bush will transition to a workhorse do it all back who excells between the tackles. Also-- Reggie Bush has a 8.7 average. But lets put some things in perspective: LenDale has a 6.6 average. Desmond Reed (3rd string USC) has 7.2 average. Off of Texas: Vince Young has a 6.8 average Jamaal Charles has a 7.4 average Ramonce Taylor has a 6.8 average All of these figures reflect tremendous Olines overmatching all Dlines they faced and where these guys were men among boys athletically. They are irrelevant to the pros. Further, when you consider LenDale got most of the short yardage carries and most redzone carriers this not only deflates his average but shows Bush probably got a lot more favorable situations for potentially long plays (3rd and longs, misdirections, etc). I can tell you both players rarely got hit behind the line of scrimmage and typically had mammouth holes to run through. I think guys like Emmitt Smith, Walter Payton, Marshall Faulk, Barry Sanders, Eric Dickerson, Tony Dorsett, Thurman Thomas, OB, Marcus Allen and Curtis Martin are why. Some of them like Bush were wicked fast and quick and spectacular in the open field--Sanders, OJ, Dorsett, Faulk, AND some of the greatists who ever played were slower than your average pro DB--Emmitt, Payton, Martin--but all of them were great between the tackles and in tight space. Perhaps Bush has that ability, but he was a heck of lot less proven as a pure runner who you hand the ball to over and over than any of these guys. So when someone says Bush is as "sure of thing" as an elite pro RB prospect in recent memory, I wonder what pro game they watch.
So I guess the motto of both sides arguments is.... good o-lines win football games. Hmm.... I'm suddenly revisiting a much debated topic throughout the year...
