We wont be drafting Sam Bowie we'll be drafting MICHAEL JORDAN and watch HAKEEM come into town to play us
Two Pure Centers? Sampson and Olajuwon were used quite often together. Before Sampson went down, there was talk of dynasty with that pair. You don't draft a QB in this draft. That position is already filled.
Again, though, many people feel different on that. I'm a Vince Young supporter, and I think David Carr is a good quarterback already with the potential to be very good to great.
So said everyone at the time. Chicago was willing to trade Jordan straight up for Sampson in 86, and everyone thought that would be a crazy trade on OUR part. Point is, you can't have a dynasty with two QB's.
I am less disappointed with his QB abilities than his leadership abilities. The team gave up on him and he was completely helpless. The team needs a facelift and you need to start from the foundation, and that includes the coaching staff and probably the QB.
CAT: 1. I disagree. We're not that close to winning. I would be shocked if we won even 6 games next year...particularly considering the upcoming schedule. I'm not convinced Bush will be that kind of difference maker at the pro level...and even if he is, i think there are too many holes elsewhere; 2. I'm a fan who will have a helluva time forgiving the franchise if they drop the ball on this one. I've never had anyone question my allegiance to Houston sports franchises. I don't think anyone would say I wasn't much of a fan to begin with. The people who know me best certainly wouldn't. And I was a Texans season ticket holder through the first 3 seasons. But I must say...I'd have a real hard time with it, particularly when they match up against Vince. I've talked to PSL holders who feel the same way...we can argue over whether or not they were "good fans"...what's important is that they were "paying fans"; 3. It's not merely current fans lost...it's fringe fans you have the opportunity of making true-blue fans with this guy. Paying fans even. Example: I had lunch today with a guy I have known for a while...everytime I talk about pro sports, he tunes out. He simply doesn't care. UNTIL TODAY. He couldn't stop talking about Vince and how stupid the Texans would be if they didn't pick him up. The evokes fan interest from those who weren't fans and weren't interested. That's very, very rare. The very idea of the Texans drafting Vince has evoked more interest in the Texans than they've had in their brief history...just off mere possibility of what MIGHT be; 4. I agree Houston sports fans will support a winner. No argument there. But read my last post to you again. Or don't, because I'll repeat myself . You don't know that taking Bush makes you a winner. You don't know that taking Young makes you a winner. So let's assume you could win taking either. Which would you rather have? Who has the potential to build greater goodwill for the franchise? That question is just so clearly answered, to me.
i'm shocked that YOU..who told me before the season how bad carr is..and how right you'd be proven this season...after the season Dave had...that you're now saying that VY would be redundant on this team. shocked.
To be honest, most of that was done tongue-in-cheek. I really didn't expext this season to be so bad. The fact is, even though I think VY could be a much better QB than Carr, it is still the wrong move. Again, I'll use the Center proposal. If we had Yao Ming as our QB, and Olajuwon was coming out, we wouldn't draft Olajuwon because that spot has been filled.
i don't think you let David Carr keep you from drafting Vince Young. i can UNDERSTAND arguments for not drafting Vince because you think Reggie is more of a sure thing. that's not the way I'd go...but i get that. I don't get looking at David Carr and having that keep you from taking Vince Young.
But, again, we've already got a "solid", if not spectacular QB. Again, both Olajuwon and Jordan were considered "equal" players during their careers. In the '83 draft, if it meant we had to trade Sampson, you know we would have taken Jordan over Olajuwon, even though Hakeem was the hometown favorite. It simply would be the right decision. The same can be said here.
you don't let solid keep you from spectacular. carr doesn't have an anchor tied to him. it's not like he's entirely unmovable. and if you think VY needs a year or so on the bench to season, Carr can play just fine. we have a "solid" running back, too.
Bush is coming out and the Texans will draft him #1 end of story. Carr will get his money on Feb 2nd and once that happens then its 0% chance they will consider Young if they are paying Carr 8 million dollars a season.
But you can use two runningbacks. If you draft Young, you've not only dropped Carr's trade value immensely, you've also put the writing on the wall that he's a lame duck QB at, what? 26? From a non-biased perspective, drafting VY would be a huge error.
Whatever it is I know Young won't be in a Texans uniform and you know Im gonna rub it in on draft day to all the VY bandwagon people to make them feel even worst. I can't wait.
