If I was Ben Wallace I would go with the Bulls contract. Bulls are an up and coming team for years to come. Pistons future is not as bright. And of course a couple more million per year and a year longer security isn't too shabby either.
I might be in the minority but i think Ben is highly overrated. He's a one dimensional player who's offense can rank as one of the worst in the nba. Even his so called defense has regressed to the point he's getting awards off reputation. Detroit will obviously miss him seeing as how they have no-one to back him up but chicago are letting themselves down. Yes, they'll probably contend this year for supremacy in the east this season but what happens down the trach when they need some cap space? It's not as if Ben is getting younger, he's getting worse by the season and will be done in 2 to 3 years. We will see what is more important to Paxson, having a chance at winning now or keeping his core and having a dynasty down the track.
Ben Wallace huh? I think the Bulls maybe planning on making a BIG trade this summer. IF they get Ben Wallace, there is no way you can keep both him and Chandler. The Bulls have been rumored to want KG... Chandler + Gordon + Nocioni + 2007 1st Rounder for KG? The Bulls would still have: Hinrich Deng Thomas KG Wallace The Wolves (if they want to move KG): Gordon Foye Davis Chandler Blount While that isn't a very good team on paper, it's a very young team that doesn't have a really bad contract except for Blount's.
this guy is not even worth the MLE ... highly overrated ... no offensive move ... not a so good defensive player, if he wasnt so hyped (?) the refs would foul him out often
On a Rockets board where we believe Yao is the best center in the NBA I don't think you're in the minority when you say that B. Wallace is overrated.
Bulls could still be under the cap this season with Ben on 15 million and Chandler's max. Hinrich Duhon Gordon Thabo Deng Nocioni Tyrus Chandler Sweeney Songaila Wallace They wouldn't need to sign any more recognised players. They can easily choose their 8-10 man rotation out of that group.
Chandler's not making the max. He's on a 6 years 64 million deal. So his salary this year is about 9 million or so. But it more a matter of how much they want to commit to the same kind of player 25-26 million in offensively challenged, defensive beasts. I don't think so. Chandler will hit the block of they land big ben.
a max contract for a player who doesn't score and is overhyped defensively. have fun with that bulls.
At this point of his career, he doesn't deserve a max contract anymore. 3-4 years back, he did, but now he's on the decline and past his prime. If he does join the Bulls, I think he turns them into one of the elite teams in the east. It took Miami 6 games to beat the Bulls, and 6 games to beat Detriot, I have no doubt that series with the Bulls would have been tougher with Ben Wallace in the paint.
4 years 48 million is not a max deal. He is not overrated. He is not a horrible offensive player, just a horrible scorer. He is still a great rebonder and help defender. He would be the Bulls best player, and if the Pistons don't match they'll be the worse rebounding team in the league.
WOW I cant believe Ben Wallace is already 31 years old!!!!!!! With the way he plays the game, which probably put serious strain on the body, you got to wonder how long he can last playing the way he does.
Wallace is depreciating pretty fast. Still a good rebounder and shot blocker but seems like a serious liability on offense. And he seems to be getting slower. I certainly wouln't want to pay him that huge money. If they do, then how are they going to afford resigning all of their players that are on rookie deals in the future? They have to be real careful about that. I agree that if they do sign Wallace, Chandler is moved. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the Pistons tried to work a S&T Wallace for Chandler if Wallace is dead set on leaving. Chandler is expendible with Tyrus Thomas.
Why would the Pistons want Chandler though? He's got a big contract and he's not that great of a PF/C. Yeah he can rebound, but he's no where the defensive player Wallace is and he can't score either.
The 4 years 48 million is the Piston's offer. The Bulls on the other hand are willing to max out Ben with a 15 million per year for 3-4 years deal.
The #1 offseason need for the Bulls was to get a PF that can score, a Chandler/Wallace frontcourt would be great on defense and on the boards-but hands down the worst in the league when it comes to scoring. If the Bulls get Big Ben, look for them to move Chandler.
I honestly think the Bulls need to try and move Chandler before they throw anything at Ben Wallace. Trade for Marion or even Garnett perhaps? I don't know what, but they need to get someone with some offensive ability at the 4 if Wallace were to man the center position.
That the Bulls will offer him a 15 million dollar a year contract, I mean people say that they would because that would force the Pistons to match it which will make it difficult for them to keep Prince later. Well what if they don't match it? Then Chicago is stuck with a contract that they never intended to pay, so I think the Bulls are going to offer him what they think is fair without even thinking about the Pistons.
