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Bullard, IQ, Departures

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RocketScientist, Dec 16, 2007.

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Who do you want to see go

  1. Fire RA now

    16 vote(s)
    10.3%
  2. Give RA till the all-star break, then fire him

    17 vote(s)
    11.0%
  3. Give RA the rest of the season then fire him

    18 vote(s)
    11.6%
  4. Trade T-Mac

    44 vote(s)
    28.4%
  5. Trade Yao

    6 vote(s)
    3.9%
  6. Trade role players

    54 vote(s)
    34.8%
  1. RocketScientist

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    Please, that was an illustrative representation of a counter point to your arguement. It would be insane to blame a grown person working at a minimum wage job (or anywhere for that matter) to blame their manager for the lack of success in their lives.

    Yes, when you lose the arguement that is the time to play the 'Your posts aren't even worth conderation anymore' card. Thanks again, but you still have the wrong question JeapordE.
     
  2. JeopardE

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    Whatever makes you feel better about yourself. I'll resume debating with you when you have learned to have a civilized discussion without resorting to random insults and ad hominem attacks.
     
  3. emjohn

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    Being fair, our championship teams won with Rudy at the helm, who is no more a tough leader than Rick. Those teams won because Hakeem was the alpha dog that kept everyone in line (but Maxwell). On this squad, Yao does not command the team, and McGrady won't - in voice or by example.

    Two ways to go: bring in a leader in the form of a player (Kidd) or coach (who? Phil Jackson? Not available)

    Evan
     
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    True, but not every leader has to have the "tough" image, either. At least Rudy knew how to inspire his team to greatness, even if he wasn't the tough general that JVG was. Coaches have different styles. At one extreme you have Avery Johnson, at the other you have a Phil Jackson with his whole "Zen" approach. But at least the leadership is there. Both have been successful (albeit to different extents).

    The shiny new X's and O's are cool. But the connection is missing. The players aren't buying in. They're not giving effort. I agree that an on-the-floor leader is needed, too, but I don't know that you can succeed if the coach isn't willing to pull his team together and lead them where he wants to take them. Worst case scenario is you end up with a cohesive group that isn't aligned with the coach, and one of the things you learn in organizational management is that that means disaster for the organization as a whole.
     
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    I really think this team misses Juwan more than people think. It's hard to define "leadership" in concrete terms... but somebody's got to get the team to focus on the task, fired up, not committing stupid mental errors, directing traffic, etc and that's something Juwan helped JVG do. This year, somebody has to do that dirty job, and it's does not look like the head coach is the guy.

    In any case... the team dynamic for this season just looks weird. Last year, win or loss, enough talent or not, guys seem to be generally positive and cheerful (except that Greek guard)....
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    And Bonzi Wells........


    I just think last year roles were defined, this year that is not the case yet.

    And Tmac still won't play off the ball consistently which is screwing the transition....big time.

    DD
     
  7. rofflesaurus

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    i have no idea how anyone can argue that Adelman is the problem. the problem is in plain black and white that the personnel DOESNT fit the system. is there a coach that could maximize this current group of players? Van Gundy maybe, but we'd essentially be the same team as last year, an inside-out team with designated shooters beyond the arc, and we'd still have no penetration. in other words we wouldnt significantly improve.

    Adelman was brought here to maximize offensive potential, but you can't maximize this mesh of players because of their lack of offensive versatility.

    i'm also getting really sick of hearing "this team is too talented to be .500". guess what, theres a reason francis and james were cast away from mediocre teams, and anyone who thought they would put us over the hump need to get back to reality.

    Adelman is a coach who has won in the playoffs. he's PROVEN he can win with talented teams, while francis, t-mac, and yao have had ZERO playoff success, yet people want to trade a PROVEN coach, for someone to coach UNPROVEN players? that is just laughable. the players are the problem and there will be changes. i guarantee it.
     

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